Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn" PICTURES ADDED

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Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn" PICTURES ADDED

I found a coin yesterday that has an Eagle with a Branch in it's mouth. It says "Sieg und Lohn" around the eagle and has what looks like a headstone on the back. "Letton" is wrritten on the bottmo of both sides. It also has a hole in it as it might have been used as a necklace. I assume it is german because the motto means Victory and Wages. It was found at a mid 1800s site in New York. Please let me know if you have information about this. I will try to get pictures uploaded this week.

I was able to test this coin and it is 90% copper,5% Zinc and 5% other. These are the best pictures I could get. I also found an 1864 2 cent piece in the same area but was unable to get pictures of it.

 

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[BuckleBoy]

Re: Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn"

"Letton" is another way of writing "Jetton," but I don't think this is a coin. I really have a hunch it is a medal... Can you post a pic while I'm working on it?

Buckleboy

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn"

I have a hunch it could be from the Napoleonic era.

 

[Thor!]

Re: Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn"

I found a forgein forum of another guy trying to id the same coin even translated it is hard to decipher. Here is the link:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ttp://www.numismatikforum.de/ftopic20204.html
Good Luck,
Troy

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Mystery Coin? "Sieg und Lohn"

Welcome from the UK.

Sounds French or Belgium. Need pictures?

 

[Red-Coat]

Just tidying up some blasts from the past (including some very ancient ones), largely for the benefit of anyone searching the site for information.

It won’t be apparent from your corroded and worn example but here’s a better view of a similar example:

What you’re perceiving to be a letter ‘L’ in ‘LETTON’ is a heavily serifed letter ‘I’. At the time this was produced, the letters ‘I’ and ‘J’ were regarded as interchangeable, with ‘J’ often not being used at all… so ‘John’ was written as ‘Iohn’ for example. So it is in fact a jetton, used in the manner of abacus beads but on a chequered board, for accounting purposes.

There are multiple variants of this jetton type with legends in German, French, English and Latin, with some having the more familiar French spelling as ‘IETON’ but I believe they’re all from the Lauer company in Nuremberg, Germany. They had customers all over Europe.

Lauer was founded in 1729 by Ernst-Ludwig Sigmund Lauer as a die-sinker and producer of medals, tokens and such, but these jettons date from between c.1800-1840 when the business was in the hands of his son Johann Jakob Lauer. The business was in the hands of the more famous Ludwig Christian Lauer from 1848 and he transformed the company into a leading producer of medals, tokens, play money and related products using higher-technology presses. He died in 1873 but the business continued under the supervision of his wife and three sons.