My Third Royal Regiment of Artillery Button and an Early Token or Coin?

[West Jersey Detecting]

Well, I hit the button field again. The first signal I dug was another British Royal Regiment of Artillery button. Four have been found at the site, three by me and one by my friend Dale. I wonder just how many buttons were on one jacket, as there may be more!

I dug another watch winder (it seems like I never come home without one lately), some other buttons and also one find that has me intrigued. I thought it was another thin button, but when I examined it closely I saw the number 70 on the right and the crown on top. I looked through some coin books and found the only thing that resembles one side of the thin brass item. It looks like the obverse of the 1670 French Colonies Copper Double. Needless to say, it is too thin to be one, which would weigh 6 grams, and only one is known to exist. But I need help identifying this small token or coin. It only weighs .9 grams.

All in all it was not a bad outing, but no coppers this time!

 

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[hammered]

Re: My Third Royal Regiment of Artillery Button and Something Resembling a 1670 Coin

Nice finds Neil , I love those old RA buttons .


hammered

 

[TommNJ]

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Congrats on the nice field finds ! Very nice button!

TommNJ

 

[romeo-1]

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That button is sweet...an early one!

 

[Erik in NJ]

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Wow nice finds!! You gotta show me sometime how to find those things in my part of NJ! Best, Erik

 

[artyfacts]

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Nice handful of green Neil. Arty

 

[55th Massachusetts]

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Great button! I sure would love to dig one!!
REB

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

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Lookin' mighty fine with those keepers ! Button Great field

 

[Woodland Detectors]

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Wow, now you had a productive day!

I just dug a watch key last week identical to that one.

Very nice finds

 

[Roland58]

Re: My Third Royal Regiment of Artillery Button and Something Resembling a 1670 Coin

Super finds! In your 4th pic, it looks like "TANN" along the edge at the 1 - 2 o'clock position (BRITANNIA, maybe?) ........it would be worth a look with a loupe.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: My Third Royal Regiment of Artillery Button and Something Resembling a 1670 Coin

Super finds! In your 4th pic, it looks like "TANN" along the edge at the 1 - 2 o'clock position (BRITANNIA, maybe?) ........it would be worth a look with a loupe.

I agree, it does look like that to me as well...Also the opposite side looks like AR in the same position (2 o'clock). I am at a total loss for this because of how thin it is. I would have though hammered if it was silver!

 

[Erik in NJ]

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Clearly said BRITANNIA when I first saw it - Jacobean coin possibly?

 

[CRUSADER]

Don't reconise that one I'll watch & find out...

(my best guess, due to the strange placing of the Crown it might be a Gaming Token or medallion)

The sort of thing I think it will be, is similar to the link below:
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=17534&cat=207

 

[Iron Patch]

Great day! But I'm going to complicate your ID saying that you can't rule out your unknown coin as being a button. In the 2nd picture if that is just corrosion that looks like a shield it could be a backmark you're seeing, and there's even a little case for it being the word "Strand", a very common word on backmark of the era. A small town British militia button would definitely fit with your artillery buttons, and that's just the type of thing that happens here.

Here's an unknown off the Colchester site to show you what I mean. (placement of the crown and letters to the left and right)

Either way it looks like a fairly challenging one... but enough to ID!

 

[Don in SJ]

Neil, my first thought was a button, but tried to come up with what type of coin or token it could be and came up empty. Getting back to it being a button, I feel that the coin "looks" like a button more than any coin, the way it is corroded, the way it is bent and the thinness of it, just screams button to me. So I took photograph 0459 and played with it a bit on the computer and THINK there is evidence of a shaft mark on it. I circled the area and of course, always hard to say on one photo, but sure looks like the rectangle remains of a "foot" where a button shaft was attached.
Good luck on this one, but for now, I say a button and perhaps a military one...

Don

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Neil, my first thought was a button, but tried to come up with what type of coin or token it could be and came up empty. Getting back to it being a button, I feel that the coin "looks" like a button more than any coin, the way it is corroded, the way it is bent and the thinness of it, just screams button to me. So I took photograph 0459 and played with it a bit on the computer and THINK there is evidence of a shaft mark on it. I circled the area and of course, always hard to say on one photo, but sure looks like the rectangle remains of a "foot" where a button shaft was attached.
Good luck on this one, but for now, I say a button and perhaps a military one...

Don

I think it makes sense what you are saying. It would only make sense, especially as I get closer to 300 buttons coming from the site. It was my first thought when it was found, and only after cleaning did I see the crown and number 70 (or possibly 79) on the right that I thought it may be a coin. Now to start looking once again at British Military buttons...

 

[dirt diggler]

love to find some rev war buttons ,still searching though . Good job and congrats on your third WTG.

 

[CRUSADER]

Great day! But I'm going to complicate your ID saying that you can't rule out your unknown coin as being a button. In the 2nd picture if that is just corrosion that looks like a shield it could be a backmark you're seeing, and there's even a little case for it being the word "Strand", a very common word on backmark of the era. A small town British militia button would definitely fit with your artillery buttons, and that's just the type of thing that happens here.

Here's an unknown off the Colchester site to show you what I mean. (placement of the crown and letters to the left and right)

Either way it looks like a fairly challenging one... but enough to ID!

Funny thing is, that was my first thought, I nearly wrote it straight away & then changed my mind, somewhat swayed by the BRITANNIA bit. I totally agree the crown over circle (shield/garter eblems) is a common UK Militia senario.

 

[steelheadwill]

Your showing some great finds!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

very nice relics Neil! easy diggin still down there?