My preference now..

[LuckyLarry]

That new Fisher f44 is quite interesting, but after all these years, the Gold Bug Pro with 5" and 11" DD would probably be my first choice today, knowing what I now know. It works nearly anywhere, even in high salt, high black sand beaches, and it's a serious small gold nugget hunter and micro gold jewelry finder too, maybe the best.. GBP first, F44 second.

 

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[CincinnatiKid]

Interesting observation.
Having personally only used an F70, I will gladly critique the GBP and F44 when you send 'em.
GL
Peace ✌

 

[Landlord Jim]

Are you a company shill?

 

[JOe L]

Are you a company shill?

How do you become a company shill? I would like them sending me detectors so I can say how great they are.

Anyway, always liked the Fisher line up. Previously owned a couple and if i was getting back into land detecting, most likely would swing their way.

 

[Backstrap80]

Type in NEL coil Xterra, you might get a lead on someone to ask.

 

[LuckyLarry]

I just got a good laugh out of that Jim. If you are referring to me as a shill, I would be pushing Whites not FT, since Whites is the company that subcontracted to the small firm that made me their supervisor regarding the making of and re-engineering of their circuit boards. It wasn't FT.

 

[Msbeepbeep]

LL- my M6 seems to have amnesia when it comes to finding gold jewelry lately, and it has started reading zincs as screw caps, once in a while does it with clad quarters, too. Is it catching a cold or just being a wise acorn!

 

[LuckyLarry]

So you live in Mass? If so, does it get salt inside it from salt beaches? The M6 is not a dedicated salt beach, gold nugget, or bad soil machine, it is just an all-around type and it won't like getting foreign debris inside it at all, from the air, or otherwise. And it has no manual ground balance either, an item which can cause you the very problem you speak about too. Leaving it in a hot vehicle can destroy the circuitry and cause resistance values to change, hence, it may no longer be correctly calibrated. Any banging against rocks or other items can cause it to function incorrectly thereafter too, because the search coil may have been dislodged. It also has the 9.5 search coil which is not exactly the most reliable of Whites coils for pinpointing between good and bad targets, it reacts strangely sometimes when the soil Fe or other mineral composition changes too rapidly too. Without examining it, I suspect that your machine has a problem within the discrimination part of the circuit, and it would have to go back to the factory to be checked. My second question would be about dirt #2, or too much heat #3, and perhaps in that order.

 

[Rik601]

So Bounty Hunter has improved that much !! I recently purchased a Timeranger thinking it would work moderately well, the price dropped from $650 big ones down to $165 at Amazon , I just could not give up a bargain like that , so I mounted a 10 coil on this puppy, does it ever go deep and it is still light , I own a Whites TDI so I know what deep digging is , and it picks up everything my Minelab X-TERRA 70 does or Minetrash as I like to call them does , for some reason they think there electronic components are special , my BH actually detects deeper than the 70, weird I was not expecting that , even the Timeranger is real detector . Whenever I pickup a Fisher or Teknetics I feel like I have a Bounty Hunter in my hands , I am glad they made significant improvements in there lines of machines !!!

 

[bigfoot1]

So Bounty Hunter has improved that much !! I recently purchased a Timeranger thinking it would work moderately well, the price dropped from $650 big ones down to $165 at Amazon , I just could not give up a bargain like that , so I mounted a 10 coil on this puppy, does it ever go deep and it is still light , I own a Whites TDI so I know what deep digging is , and it picks up everything my Minelab X-TERRA 70 does or Minetrash as I like to call them does , for some reason they think there electronic components are special , my BH actually detects deeper than the 70, weird I was not expecting that , even the Timeranger is real detector . Whenever I pickup a Fisher or Teknetics I feel like I have a Bounty Hunter in my hands , I am glad they made significant improvements in there lines of machines !!!

deep aint everything brother.lots of deep machines I wouldnt swing.Its all about target seperation,recovery speed in iron and target id(especially at depth)

couldnt help but notice you mention none of the most important aspects of a quality machine.

 

[Billinoregon]

Sooo, Larry, the GBP for Oregon beaches?
Bill in Salem

 

[LuckyLarry]

Dave Johnson of FT says that the GBP (the G2) is the best one of all single freq FT detectors on salt beaches here, even better than the T2, the F70, and the F75. He did NOT say it was better than a CZ though. I use a Fisher CZ or my old Compass R&C, they outdo other brands in the heavy trash up on the dry part on our beaches. Out in the wet I would use a PI or just a low priced cheapie, (ANY) PI, because pickings are slim there. Search the trails down to the beaches, the ones through the woods and brush and trees, they produce more goodies. Oregon is not swamped with thousands and millions of tourists like southern and eastern coastal beaches, but the pathways there get used a lot because it's usually the only way down to the beach..

On our beaches all-out depth is paramount because it is automatically reduced here, we have more difficult soil to work in than most of the rest of the USA. For example, my CZ reads around a #2 for ground balance here, but in Iowa or Ohio it reads a #6 to a #9, and in Texas or Florida a #7 to #8.

We need MAXIMUM, unadulterated, raw, unaffected, unabashed POWER in order to overcome our high magnetite, high hematite, our high black sand soil. Our salt beaches require a magnum load of power too so as to overdrive past the null point in our automatic circuitry parameters. Our depth capability is cut down to about half of other parts of the country's light-soil capability, and sometimes even more. It is not like the east coast or the shores of Texas (where I was born) where the soil is almost mineral free save for salt on ocean beaches. Luckily though the soil is communistic, we all get the same fairness of not being able to go real deep, we all are limited to the same degree.

My old Tesoro Silver Saber has found me the most goodies overall on Oregon salt beaches, but never deeper than 4", although that's because I used it the most way back then and it wouldn't detect past 4" anyway. There were more targets then too, LOTS more. I owned an ancient Garrett Deepseeker and it went down to 10 1/2 inches {in all-metal} on old rusty and corroded copper pennies on salt beaches, but those detectors haven't been made for years. In depth, the old machines were better than most of the new or newer ones, partly because of frequency, partly because of simplistic circuit design, and partly because of lack of toys(which rob the power). Most detectors only get down to about 7" on our beaches for coins now. I had a Sovereign, it worked alright there, but the CZ outdid it in heavy black sand, and black sand is found all over the Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Northern California beaches. On an area in part of the southern coast of Washington State not even one of all my detectors would work, they either went silent or just warbled at the black round shiny rocks all over the beach there. The whole beach was made of those rocks too. On a huge basalt boulder though the Sovereign did the best, but who hunts on basalt boulders? . If I wanted the {{{utmost depth}}} on our beaches I'd buy the Garrett ATX and I wouldn't turn back. It can discriminate somewhat too but it doesn't cherry pick well. Someone else has their own views too, so personally, I always try before I buy and I make up my own mind, and I don't let other people do my thinking for me either. Good luck to you..

 

[Billinoregon]

Thanks Larry. Lots to think about. Probably should re-learn how to use my Xterra 705 before I go buying another machine. I have heard good things about the Garrett Infinium for salty use, too.

 

[LuckyLarry]

As for me I would money up for the ATX, it is a BEAST!

I live 1/2 mile from Whites main plant and I was involved in their circuit board production and redesigning for awhile through a sub contractor, but I have no bias toward them. I have seen comparisons between Minelab's top of the line PI's too. And although much of what Garrett now produces is still from earlier creations and a bit antiquated, I really like the ATX, it is a newer circuit design. Good luck to you.

http://metaldetectorreviews.net/detectors/344-1-garrettatx.html

http://metaldetectorreviews.net/detectors/60-1-infiniumls.html

http://metaldetectorreviews.net/detectors/244-1-minelabgpx5000.html

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[cw0909]

delete

 

[LuckyLarry]

puter problems,

 

[LuckyLarry]

cw Explain. Why would you try out another dfx, and why was it stolen? Also why would I need a Whites reviewed? Is the thread about Whites? I thought my post was about Fishers? Help me out here..

 

[cw0909]

cw Explain. Why would you try out another dfx, and why was it stolen? Also why would I need a Whites reviewed? Is the thread about Whites? I thought my post was about Fishers? Help me out here..

sorry larry i read the post/s wrong, ill delete it, so no confusion

 

[LuckyLarry]

All good cw, I do things that confuse me every time I get out of bed..