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[Shiloh]

 

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[AlienLifeForm]

Cant help on the rest, but the one with the swastika on it is a Hitler Youth knife.

 

[Shiloh]

Thanks.

 

[Icewing]

I think the long one is an 1878 Austrian officers sword.
That may not be 100% accurate but should at least get you close.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?...sword","hps":false,"iqp":false}]}&FORM=IRQBPD

 

[Shiloh]

It is similar.

 

[nhbenz]

The axe is a WWII German fire axe

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Need better pics of the two in the first pic, closeups of any markings.

The sword looks to be a really fancy WW1 era Austro Hungarian officers dress sword. It'll take more research, and closeups of the base of the blade and any markings there.

The Hitler Youth dagger is rough, it looks like it spent a long time in someones tackle box. It's the only one I can really tell you much about, but I need close ups of makers marks on the blade if they are still visible. Sadly in that condition it's lost a whole lot of value. If it were offered to me, I couldn't pay more than around $50 for it, maybe a touch more if the engraving is still decent on the blade, but the cross guard being that pitted and the rust just takes away too much.

 

[LM]

If it were offered to me, I couldn't pay more than around $50 for it, maybe a touch more if the engraving is still decent on the blade, but the cross guard being that pitted and the rust just takes away too much.

I'd suggest taking a look at actual market prices of those knives in that condition range.
I suppose you hedged with "if it were offered to me" so if someone offered me a Mint 57 Chevy, "I couldn't pay more than $2000 for it" and that would be a true statement but that isn't a credible evaluation of its actual fair market value as much as it is just confusing hogwash to someone seeking fair market value.

 

[Honest Samuel]

Great finds, great pictures.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I'd suggest taking a look at actual market prices of those knives in that condition range.
I suppose you hedged with "if it were offered to me" so if someone offered me a Mint 57 Chevy, "I couldn't pay more than $2000 for it" and that would be a true statement but that isn't a credible evaluation of its actual fair market value as much as it is just confusing hogwash to someone seeking fair market value.

I have, I collected Third Reich relics for years, Here's one in better condition (still rough) that sold for $195. What a collector will offer for something isn't a reflection of what other collectors are asking for the same thing. I would offer around $50 and hope to sell it or trade it someday for something worth around $100-$150 if I found someone who just had to have it. It's true that some of these sell for $500 up, but condition is everything, as is the maker when it comes to these daggers.
http://www.militarywarehouse.com/NaziRelicPriceGuide43/index.html

Also I can confirm the hatchet is a German firefighters hatchet, I though it was but I wanted to look them up to make sure. It's worth quite a bit more than the HJ dagger but I don't know enough about them to make a guess, could be $500, could be over $1000. That one I would suggest taking lots of pics and posting it to the Wehrmacht Awards forum in the edged weapons section. The experts there will be able to give you a good estimate.
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/

 

[Xraywolf]

I'd suggest taking a look at actual market prices of those knives in that condition range.
I suppose you hedged with "if it were offered to me" so if someone offered me a Mint 57 Chevy, "I couldn't pay more than $2000 for it" and that would be a true statement but that isn't a credible evaluation of its actual fair market value as much as it is just confusing hogwash to someone seeking fair market value.

HJ knives are not very valuable, after all they were made for boy scouts by the 1,000,000's.
This one is in near relic condition, things like this don't fetch anywhere close to top $$ unless minty.
You know so much about market value, what would you pay for a common rusted HJ knife [and please don't say you saw one on a dealer site for $650 so they all must be worth that] ? $50-$100 tops sounds about right to me, sure somewhere out there is someone who would pay $150 for it, thinking anything with a Swastika must very old and really valuable.

I btw am not slamming the piece, it is what it is and is a legit historical relic.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The version of two-headed eagle emblem on the long sword's handguard is definitely Austrian. Here's a photo showing an 1859 Austrian 1/4th Florin coin.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I took some time to look around a bit more. The sword looks to be a version of an Austro Hungarian civil servants parade sword. BUT.... I can't find an exact match anywhere. The ones I have found have a different shell guard and do not have the shield on the grip. The base of the blade should be stamped with a makers mark, if there is one please post a pic, it could be under the shell.

Not finding an exact match isn't too worrying in itself as I found s few different variations online, but there are a few things that are kind of off about it that I would advise having an expert have a look at, the Wehrmacht forum also has an "Imperial Militaria Forum" that would be a good place to post it for opinions. My main concerns are that the cross guard seems unevenly cast, there appears to be remnants of silver wash on some parts but not others, the ferrule at the base of the grip is different from the others I've found, and the patina just looks strange.

None of that immediately means the sword isn't genuine, it could be a privately purchased sword that was maybe not top of the line. I would say post it in that forum and ask about the things I pointed out and see what the experts have to say

 

[nhbenz]

The short sword is a lot like the Austrian M1858, but different enough and newer looking, so it's not quite that.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

The short sword is a lot like the Austrian M1858, but different enough and newer looking, so it's not quite that.

How about this one with different grip scales?

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[Shiloh]

Looks like it.

 

[diggummup]

The small sword next to the axe in the first pic that resembles a Bowie knife is an Austrian 1853/89 Model Pioneer's Short Sword.
http://sword-site.com/thread/1282/1853-model-pioneers-short-sword

 

[Shiloh]

Thanks.

 

[coast40]

I'd suggest taking a look at actual market prices of those knives in that condition range.
I suppose you hedged with "if it were offered to me" so if someone offered me a Mint 57 Chevy, "I couldn't pay more than $2000 for it" and that would be a true statement but that isn't a credible evaluation of its actual fair market value as much as it is just confusing hogwash to someone seeking fair market value.

Something is only worth what someone will pay for it. And there is a baseline value. No harm in my book. A little prick ly, are we?

 

[Oddjob]

1930s Dress Uniform Axe, nice one, I have found a few my self. Brings a fast 300 bucks.