Mute Air Force veteran shot dead for ringing a doorbell!

[UncleMatt]

Man with Alzheimers shot by homeowner after ringing the doorbell | Mail Online

What is it these days with people feeling they have the right to shoot people who come to their door? A couple of weeks ago it was a female car crash victim who got shot at a door while seeking help. This victim was an elderly, mute, Alzheimer's patient who got lost and rang a doorbell for help. Hardly a threat to anyone, or anything! Why is the first thought to grab a gun when answering the door? I just shake my head at the abject stupidity required to engage in such actions.

 

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[Old Bookaroo]

UncleMatt:

The best-known case I'm aware of - twenty years ago.

Acquittal in Doorstep Killing of Japanese Student

May 24, 1993

A jury today found a local meat market manager not guilty in the fatal shooting of a Japanese exchange student, ending a case that exposed major differences between the attitudes of Japanese and Americans toward guns.

The 12-member jury took just over three hours to acquit the defendant, Rodney Peairs, 31, of manslaughter in the killing of 16-year-old Yoshihiro Hattori last October.

Outside the courtroom, Mr. Peairs said he would no longer use guns, The Associated Press reported. And in remarks intended for the teen-ager's father, he said, "I'm very sorry that any of this ever happened."

Mr. Hattori was looking for a Halloween party in the Baton Rouge suburb of Central on Oct. 17 when he and a companion mistakenly rang Mr. Peairs's doorbell, frightening his wife. The case became the focus of intense interest in Japan because it seemed to confirm the Japanese view of America as a place rife with guns. News of the verdict led newscasts in Japan on Monday.

"You have the absolute legal right in this country to answer your door with a gun," Mr. Peairs's lawyer, Lewis Unglesby, said today in his closing argument. "In your house, if you want to do it, you have the legal right to answer everybody that comes to your door with a gun."

Masanori Suzuki, the executive director of the exchange program that sent Mr. Hattori to Louisiana, told The A.P. he was outraged by Mr. Unglesby's depiction of Mr. Peairs as a victim of events. "He didn't kill an animal, he killed a person," Mr. Suzuki said. "The gun he shot him with was not a gun for self-defense."

~ from The New York Times

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Unclebuck257]

Again, I would say it all depends on who YOU are and WHERE you live. Out here in the rural, country, areas I doubt this would happen because although people are alert to dangers, they are also a little more relaxed regarding someone knocking on your front door. In an inner city situation, with a very high crime and home break in rate, I would say that most of the residents are on edge every minute of their lives. I'm not saying what these folks did was right, I'm just saying that they are probably and rightfully so, wound a lot more tight about strangers at their door.

 

[packerbacker]

Here's a little more to your story OB. In your post you state that "he and a companion mistakenly rang Mr. Peairs's doorbell, frightening his wife." That's absurd! The simple act of ringing the doorbell did not frighten his wife. It's written that way for shock value, is not fact and is the VERY TYPICAL way the left writes about everything to fool the flock. Another point in your post is "The gun he shot him with was not a gun for self defense". The gun was a 44 magnum. I'd say it's a very good gun for home self defense as it will shoot through doors as well as people. What difference does it make as to what kind of gun it was? It's just more smoke and mirrors to make the shooter look like a BAD GUY. Here's more of the story.
Just then, Mrs. Peairs spotted Mr. Hattori coming around a corner. "He was coming real fast towards me," she testified. "I had never had somebody come at me like that before. I was terrified."
The young man spoke little English. Partly out of frustration, partly out of a desire to communicate instantly, testimony indicated, he often rushed up to people, waving his arms, which is what he did that night.
When Mrs. Peairs called her husband to get his gun, Mr. Peairs said he did not ask any questions. Rushing to a back room, he retrieved his revolver.

 

[packerbacker]

I don't understand why the guy in your post Matt, wouldn't just notice the age of the guy and consider him to not be a threat and, besides that, he went outside?? I would guess the victim wasn't very mobile at his age and suffering from Alzheimer's so it's hard to understand why the shooter would feel threatened. It would be unnerving to have someone ring the doorbell and try to get in at 4 in the morning but I have personally had that happen to me. In my case it was a small boy, about 4 years old, with mental problems. I was awake, having just used the bathroom, and I heard the doorknob being slowly turned about 3 in the morning (no knock or doorbell). It happened twice with the same kid that lived a few blocks away. I didn't shoot him either time.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

packerbacker:

I didn't state anything. That is a quote from the newspaper article, published by the New York Times (which was referenced at the bottom). The statement regarding the utility of that firearm as a home defense weapon was also a quote.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Google "Man shots son by mistake" - you can pick from the poor gun in Chicago and the poor guy in Connecticut. Or the poor guy in Pennsylvania who shot his 7-year old son sitting in his car seat.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[NHBandit]

OB this may come as a shocker but I'm going to agree with you that some people aren't intelligent enough or responsible enough to own guns. Buttt... Irresponsible drivers who drive under the influence, drive while texting, or a multitude of other reasons kill people everyday. Is the solution to ban cars ? No ? That's a ridiculous solution to the problem you say ? wait for it.............................................. Because it's not the cars fault. Common sense man.. you can get some if you try..

 

[davest]

cars can be driven to work, or national parks if you want to do that. guns on the other hand can be used for target practice so they can be used more efficiently to kill, be it game or humans.

I think there is a bit of a difference. BTW, if you drive an unregistered car, what happens? If you own unregistered firearms,what happens?

 

[NHBandit]

cars can be driven to work, or national parks if you want to do that. guns on the other hand can be used for target practice so they can be used more efficiently to kill, be it game or humans.

I think there is a bit of a difference. BTW, if you drive an unregistered car, what happens? If you own unregistered firearms,what happens?

An "unregistered firearm" ? What's that ? Unless you live in NY City or CA I have no idea what that is. There is NO federal law or State law in most places that requires registration. Guns are tools. Are your hammers registered ? How about your chainsaw ? Now those things are scary... Anyway, yep there is a difference. You can use guns to feed your family, protect them from people who would do them harm, protect them from wild animals that would do you or your family harm and a multitude of other things they've been used for for centuries. They only become dangerous when they're under the control of bad or irresponsible PEOPLE. Just like cars... I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make or even which side of the issue you're on for that matter. What if I prefer to go target shooting over driving through a National park ? I'm a law abiding citizen who has been properly trained in the use of firearms and have not been declared incompetent or crazy. What if I'm retired and don't NEED to go to work ? Man, it's a total mystery to me why intelligent people can't figure out that NO object all by itself without being in the control of a human, has ever done anything inherently evil yet you continue to blame the object. Irresponsible and evil PEOPLE kill other people with cars, with guns, with knives, baseball bats, I could go on for 12 pages with methods... The one key factor is PEOPLE, not the object. Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to explain to a group of 5 year olds why they shouldn't eat an entire bag of candy... They also only hear what they want to hear.

 

[packerbacker]

OB.....we all know you didn't write the article, you just cut and pasted what the Times had written. I was merely pointing out that the "part" of the article you chose to post was the description that the Times used to try and make the homeowners look like completely paranoid gun owners that had no reason whatsoever to feel threatened. I agree, it's a sad story but, the guy that was shot did not act like a normal person would have. He was told to halt and didn't. Maybe it was a cultural misunderstanding but, when in Rome.

 

[NHBandit]

OB.....we all know you didn't write the article, you just cut and pasted what the Times had written. I was merely pointing out that the "part" of the article you chose to post was the description that the Times used to try and make the homeowners look like completely paranoid gun owners that had no reason whatsoever to feel threatened. I agree, it's a sad story but, the guy that was shot did not act like a normal person would have. He was told to halt and didn't. Maybe it was a cultural misunderstanding but, when in Rome.

Come on man, get with the program. We all know that the spin doctors working for the main stream media want us to believe that people are just randomly shooting through their doors with pump shotguns every time the bell rings. Girl Scouts selling cookies, Jehovah Witnesses, dosn't matter. Just randomly shooting everyone... I'm not saying accidents never happen but why do the hundreds of incidents where someone saved a life due to the legal use of a firearm nearly never make headlines ? Are you gun grabbers (not you PB) denying there's a double standard when it comes to what gets on the 11:00 news ?

 

[Dave44]

Well shooting through the door "could" scare someone off too? I mean ,, if you have a double barrel shotgun and shoot off both barrels from the balcony( I have it on unreliable testimony) it will scare any bad guy off?

 

[NHBandit]

Well shooting through the door "could" scare someone off too? I mean ,, if you have a double barrel shotgun and shoot off both barrels from the balcony( I have it on unreliable testimony) it will scare any bad guy off?

Gee you don't suppose the DC shooting quickly disappeared off the radar because the shooter used a "sleepy eyed Joe" approved scattergun do ya ? It was all over the news for the first couple of days when the MSM was claiming he had an "assault" weapon... They even showed a stock photo of an AR15 if I remember correctly.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

packerbacker:

I quoted the first several paragraphs of the article. I did not edit it.

Unlike some people here, I try to respect "fair use."

"He was told to halt..."

In English.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

It is called a tragic accident.... Police must also feel the same way since no charges are likely to be filed against the shooter

At 4 am someone ringing doorbell and trying door knob is enough to raise suspicions.

Many home invasions occur in early morning hours and home owners are on alert....

Again just a tragic accident.

We will NOT go quietly into the night!

 

[Red James Cash]

I see people behind the wheel everyday that dont respect the rules of the road.How many here have seen the idiots that come off of an on ramp onto a busy highway and dont bother to yield to the oncoming traffic.How many see people going through stop signs and red lights every day.I see it everyday,I see it more times than i care to count coming home from my brothers house.They dont belong behind the wheel.3000 pounds of steel is just as deadly as a gun with an idiot behind the wheel.

 

[packerbacker]

OB....you wrote: ""He was told to halt..." In English."
Right, he was told to halt and he didn't. How many languages do we have to learn to protect our homes? I don't work for the welfare office, I just say "halt", that's it. There's no, "Press one for Japanese". I'm just pointing out that there is a LOT of difference between the ringing doorbell scaring the wife and what the real story is. The statement of the doorbell scaring the wife is just the use of the usual smoke and mirrors to muddy the truth for the flock to consume.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

packerbacker:

OK - I'll bite. What happened between the time the young man rang the doorbell and the time he was shot dead?

You're the expert here.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Dave44]

packerbacker:

OK - I'll bite. What happened between the time the young man rang the doorbell and the time he was shot dead?

You're the expert here.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

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