More Finds from the Crash Site(IDs needed)

[Silver Searcher]

More finds from the site, any imfomation would be very greatfull

SS

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

All I can say SS is that it resembles a camshaft pulley. Does it look like a belt could have gone on it?

 

[Silver Searcher]

All I can say SS is that it resembles a camshaft pulley. Does it look like a belt could have gone on it?

To thin for that BigCY

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

OK no belt. It looks like a belt groove in the pic. I would say its definitely a pulley. Maybe magnesium or titanium alloy or something lightweight for aircraft use. For what exactly, I do not know. Clean it up and it may reveal a clue.

 

[Silver Searcher]

OK no belt. It looks like a belt groove in the pic. I would say its definitely a pulley. Maybe magnesium or titanium alloy or something lightweight for aircraft use. For what exactly, I do not know. Clean it up and it may reveal a clue.

Will do, all the finds are in the back of the car, waiting to be cleaned, hopefully some IDs might come up after cleaning

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It looks like the nickel plating is coming off in the bottom pic.

 

[Silver Searcher]

It looks like the nickel plating is coming off in the bottom pic.

Yes that's right Bigcy, and part of a number

SS

 

[TiredIron]

Having restored three WWII aircraft and assisted on several others I can with quite a bit of certainty tell you that the round bracket with the slots in it is the rear end or bearing support for one of several accessories used on the Rolls Royce, Hercules, or Vultee engines( or from any of another bunch of aircraft engines). By accessories I mean starter, or generator, etc. Like our Aircraft and Engines the powerplants of various aircraft standardized when possible the use of common components. Your bracket is a rear bearing support. Its small enough that it could of been a vacum pump, or a small inverter.
In your other pictures you show a knurled knob and a black connector with four holes. Someone said that is was a headset connector....which it is not. Headsets both British and American all used a "310' type phone plug sort of like on stereo head phone, they stuck straight into a receiver jack. It and the knurled knob (not the one with the numbers) are just electrical connectors used through out the aircraft. The radios, tach generators, inverters, radio chassis, etc. were all connected with this hardware.
I have stripped all these and thousands of other parts from salvaged aircraft. Aircraft archeology is fascinating and hard work. Good luck

TiredIron

 

[BioProfessor]

And it's even harder when you have to dig them up first.

Daryl

 

[TiredIron]

While I was in the Air Force at Holloman AFB New Mexico..... I went out on a detail where we had to clean up a F4 Phantom that impacted a bluff while flying inverted at about 400kts. There were bits and pieces up to 12 ft deep into the desert bluff. It was amazing how a large fighter could be reduced to such small debris....I won't go into what it did to the two crew members.

TiredIron

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Crash site. Did I miss something?

 

[BioProfessor]

As usual, yep.

Daryl

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

While I was in the Air Force at Holloman AFB New Mexico..... I went out on a detail where we had to clean up a F4 Phantom that impacted a bluff while flying inverted at about 400kts. There were bits and pieces up to 12 ft deep into the desert bluff. It was amazing how a large fighter could be reduced to such small debris....I won't go into what it did to the two crew members.

TiredIron

Reminds me of the Valujet airliner that nosedived into the Everglades. It practically disappeared.

TiredIron what is the piece with the numbers? (pic 010) http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,275274.0.html

 

[TiredIron]

I wish I could see all the numbers around the knob....it looks like 00-16-28-?
It could be as some have said part of the bomb site.....or part of several other control devices onboard. I sold two almost new Norden Bombsites with stabization units and they didn't have this type of knob. There are other knobs like "oxygen flow" and "part of the auto pilot systems" that have similar knobs. I'll keep scratching.

TiredIron

 

[Silver Searcher]

I wish I could see all the numbers around the knob....it looks like 00-16-28-?
It could be as some have said part of the bomb site.....or part of several other control devices onboard. I sold two almost new Norden Bombsites with stabization units and they didn't have this type of knob. There are other knobs like "oxygen flow" and "part of the auto pilot systems" that have similar knobs. I'll keep scratching.

TiredIron

TiredIron thanks for your expert knowledge

The numbers are as follows...00,19,28,37,46,55,64,73,82,91. here's a couple more pictures, fragments of pipes(possibly fuel) one is copper, the outher two alloy, could these be part of the fuel line system and a small square whatsit , and a piece of cast alloy

SS

 

[shaun7]

The square thing looks like it had a label in it

 

[Tony in SC]

The top part looks the end bell (end plate with bearing support) from the engine generartor. Tony

 

[Silver Searcher]

TiredIron is quite correct on the ID of the electrical plug. I mistakenly thougth that they used a diferent type of plug, but did not.
As far as the knob wit numbers, I don't think it is a bombsight piece, as I previously stated, most of the control knobs on the Norden were nonpainted metal with no markings.
Trying to ID the wheel pictured, as I believe it MAY be a trim wheel if it is not a pulley.
My knowledge is more cold war SAC oriented, but i have SOME earlier references.

As you can see from the link, ID is difficult at best, and it takes someone with real working knowledge.

http://www.yorkshireairmuseum.co.uk/virtual_tour/

Thanks Rando...interesting link

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The numbers are as follows...00,19,28,37,46,55,64,73,82,91.

Those are odd numbers. I googled them and got this. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...7,46,55,64,73,82,91"&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Add each number together and get a number ending in zero. After the 19 each number is 9 digits apart.

 

[Silver Searcher]

So it a natural adjustment progression in even increments, starting at 19 or 19% or 1900, 19000..
hmm...
those are the maximum allowable values for a two digit place.
So probably,

radio,
oxygen
radar...

If anyone who knows a lot about those things could say what is important about starting at 19

Could they be two sets of numbers 1 to 9, 9 to 1.

SS