jewelerdave
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- Aug 29, 2007
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- 848
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- Location
- Fort Collins, Colorado
- Detector(s) used
- I just follow my nose!...where the silver and gold goes!
Minelab 5000, Goldmaster, and a few others
XRF spectrometer, Common sense.
- Primary Interest:
- Prospecting
Marginal last couple days
2 64 kens
23 40%ers
5 bens
1 Walker
Most were fed boxes but one ben and one walker and a few of the 40s were from about $340 in hand rolled that a little credit union was happy to get rid of, some of the rolls were just tape! LOL it was funny.
Picked up some dimes and got screwed, I asked for $250 and when the guy was laying them out right on top of one was a Merc! COOL I though, but it was one of those behind glass places and while he was packing them up I saw it go in the bag last, then I had to move to the area where the put the bag though the wall and it took him a bit longer, I couldnt see what happend, and when i searched, NO MERC on top, Or any other silver for that matter, That kinda pissed me off. It was right there! how often does a fed roll have a merc on top!
the other interesting thing is the wax boxes are put together at the fed. We have all complained about skunk boxes and have all been joyful about "good" boxes. Funny thing is its hard to track what goes where etc.
The only thing that has givin me a clue is special aspects or marks.
4 more of the bens I found from one box were all BU uncerculated and match the rest I found a couple weeks ago. Same shine and match and everything, But, at a different bank...hmm.
It is quite obvious that of the collection it seems that 2 rolls at least of GEM BU Bens got deposited,
I have found almost 2 rolls scattered here and there in 4 boxes. 4 boxes is $2000 or one fed bag...well here is the weird part, the rest of the box that had the last 4 bens in it had NO 40s
each other bag with the bens had quite a few 40s Also when getting my own coins back due to marking a few key halves and tokens I still find silver despite depositing over 4k at a time at one bank, I get few skunks.
It would seem to me that when the things are rolled they dont get boxed right away. Or, they get boxed but more than one fed bag gets mixed in at once when being machine rolled. For all we know they may have a small assembly line of the things going or they may go in a bin before being hand packed into the boxes. Making for more of a mix. This would explain why I keep finding coins from the same collection richer in some boxes and poorer in others.
Also, to those who feel there is a conspiracy that the "Good" boxes are held back or are deeper or that employees at the fed high grade them. I really dont think so or that there is that much control too it. There is no way they are going to allow fed employees to go in to work with change in there pockets and walk out with change in there pockets. Particularly when you think about the scale of the silver coins we find, the scale at the collection point would be huge. there is no way, Working in one day on Dozens of boxes would provide so much silver that it would be impossible to "smuggle" out, try lifting your own stash, that could be found daily. The problem with smuggling in coin and out, particularly silver, Forget it, its not gonna happen. The Employees see them as just money after a while. They may get a couple here and there but I seriously doubt it,
As someone who works around a lot of gold and gems and silver every day, it becomes a normal regular thing. They wont care.
Now, bank tellers are different. they get some stuff off and on, but they high grade but they also have the time to in some cases and knowledge. For example I almost bought a bag of halves from a bank but the kid that worked there told me he skims it for silver all the time...forget it. its a dump of mine now LOL
The fact is that when your CRH all your doing is upping the odds of finding stuff thats there by ignorance. Bank tellers and cashiers breaking open rolls do find stuff and keep it sometimes or give it in change. People deposit collections unknowingly and they end up in rolls. There is no holy grail boxs or sources other than people who dont know or care who make deposits. Older boxes dont make a difference, newer ones dont either, we get out of them what other people put in. Its just probability.
I could go down and deposit gold coins and they would end up in rolls, Is there a source, yes, I put em there. who will find them, who knows! If I go looking will I find em, if I look hard enough probably yeah.
thats pretty much all there is too it. Its random
2 64 kens
23 40%ers
5 bens
1 Walker
Most were fed boxes but one ben and one walker and a few of the 40s were from about $340 in hand rolled that a little credit union was happy to get rid of, some of the rolls were just tape! LOL it was funny.
Picked up some dimes and got screwed, I asked for $250 and when the guy was laying them out right on top of one was a Merc! COOL I though, but it was one of those behind glass places and while he was packing them up I saw it go in the bag last, then I had to move to the area where the put the bag though the wall and it took him a bit longer, I couldnt see what happend, and when i searched, NO MERC on top, Or any other silver for that matter, That kinda pissed me off. It was right there! how often does a fed roll have a merc on top!
the other interesting thing is the wax boxes are put together at the fed. We have all complained about skunk boxes and have all been joyful about "good" boxes. Funny thing is its hard to track what goes where etc.
The only thing that has givin me a clue is special aspects or marks.
4 more of the bens I found from one box were all BU uncerculated and match the rest I found a couple weeks ago. Same shine and match and everything, But, at a different bank...hmm.
It is quite obvious that of the collection it seems that 2 rolls at least of GEM BU Bens got deposited,
I have found almost 2 rolls scattered here and there in 4 boxes. 4 boxes is $2000 or one fed bag...well here is the weird part, the rest of the box that had the last 4 bens in it had NO 40s
each other bag with the bens had quite a few 40s Also when getting my own coins back due to marking a few key halves and tokens I still find silver despite depositing over 4k at a time at one bank, I get few skunks.
It would seem to me that when the things are rolled they dont get boxed right away. Or, they get boxed but more than one fed bag gets mixed in at once when being machine rolled. For all we know they may have a small assembly line of the things going or they may go in a bin before being hand packed into the boxes. Making for more of a mix. This would explain why I keep finding coins from the same collection richer in some boxes and poorer in others.
Also, to those who feel there is a conspiracy that the "Good" boxes are held back or are deeper or that employees at the fed high grade them. I really dont think so or that there is that much control too it. There is no way they are going to allow fed employees to go in to work with change in there pockets and walk out with change in there pockets. Particularly when you think about the scale of the silver coins we find, the scale at the collection point would be huge. there is no way, Working in one day on Dozens of boxes would provide so much silver that it would be impossible to "smuggle" out, try lifting your own stash, that could be found daily. The problem with smuggling in coin and out, particularly silver, Forget it, its not gonna happen. The Employees see them as just money after a while. They may get a couple here and there but I seriously doubt it,
As someone who works around a lot of gold and gems and silver every day, it becomes a normal regular thing. They wont care.
Now, bank tellers are different. they get some stuff off and on, but they high grade but they also have the time to in some cases and knowledge. For example I almost bought a bag of halves from a bank but the kid that worked there told me he skims it for silver all the time...forget it. its a dump of mine now LOL
The fact is that when your CRH all your doing is upping the odds of finding stuff thats there by ignorance. Bank tellers and cashiers breaking open rolls do find stuff and keep it sometimes or give it in change. People deposit collections unknowingly and they end up in rolls. There is no holy grail boxs or sources other than people who dont know or care who make deposits. Older boxes dont make a difference, newer ones dont either, we get out of them what other people put in. Its just probability.
I could go down and deposit gold coins and they would end up in rolls, Is there a source, yes, I put em there. who will find them, who knows! If I go looking will I find em, if I look hard enough probably yeah.
thats pretty much all there is too it. Its random
Ht 2007 CRH Total: 11 09 07
War Nickels – 4
Buffalo Nicks - 1
V Nickel 1 (1899)
proof Nickel - 1
Sil Dimes - 9
Sil Wash Qtrs - 0
90% Kennedy - 81
40% Kennedy - 792
Franklins - 60
Walkers - 15
Barber – 2 (1904, 1910s)
Comm. Sil Halves – 1 1992 columbus
Prf Halves – 36
of witch are Silver Proofs 12
Ikes - 42
War Nickels – 4
Buffalo Nicks - 1
V Nickel 1 (1899)
proof Nickel - 1
Sil Dimes - 9
Sil Wash Qtrs - 0
90% Kennedy - 81
40% Kennedy - 792
Franklins - 60
Walkers - 15
Barber – 2 (1904, 1910s)
Comm. Sil Halves – 1 1992 columbus
Prf Halves – 36
of witch are Silver Proofs 12
Ikes - 42
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