more brass today,cool pull

[jrwill56]

found these brass items today, the bullet looking piece is hollow, about 2" long and 3/8" at base and 1/4" at narrow end no threads.

the pull handle looking piece is 4" across, 1/2" at the widest part, has a mans face on one side a woman's on the other . why such a sharp end?

would love to find out more about the pull, need to display at the Heritage Center her at the plantation.

 

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[releventchair]

If the sharp end was bent at a angle it could slide into a round holed stud.two studs per handle.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

i agree with rele. shart on the end so it could be inserted into something. Other end broke off.

 

[taz42o]

Looks alot like a drawer pull but im not so sure. The faces would be sideways and you would never see the one on the back.
I think it maybe was used vertically whatever it is.

 

[jrwill56]

i am thinking i have them aliened right, maybe different. what about the other piece ?

 

[Reed Lukens]

The other is also a handle. Maybe out of the end of a magnifying glass or mirror, something along those lines. Could also be a removable handle out of the old theater binoculars.
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[TheCannonballGuy]

I think the C-shaped brass object (with decoration on both sides) isn't a drawer-pull, but instead is the broken-off knuckle guard ("knuckle-bow") from a sword hilt. The prong on the intact end fits into the grip's pommel-cap, similar to the one shown in the photo below.

 

[Reed Lukens]

That could be it, here's another pic. Being these were decorative style blades used in parades and such, I can't see it breaking there but it could be. I'm still thinking drawer pull just because of the shape and uniformity of it though.

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[TheCannonballGuy]

Please note the presence of a "raised" decoration on Jrwill56's unidentified find at the unbroken end with the prong -- making its "form" very similar to what is shown in the sword knuckle-guard photo you posted.

 

[Reed Lukens]

Yea, that's why I popped the picture. It really is close. Probably a sword expert could tell us instantly the exact sword that this is from. I just can't see it breaking right there is why a drawer pull makes more sense to me. But... It could still be a knuckle guard from a cheaper sword, like maybe a Shriner's Knights Templar parade sword

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I do not consider myself an expert on antique edged-weapons. I can only say that my "semi-educated guess" is it looks like the style of a 1700s-to-early-1800s local Militia sword, or perhaps a "Gentleman's sword" -- both of which types were "flimsier" than Army-issue swords.

 

[Scotdixon]

Resembles a drawer pull, I find these often.

 

[Paleopilot]

Please note the presence of a "raised" decoration on Jrwill56's unidentified find at the unbroken end with the prong -- making its "form" very similar to what is shown in the sword knuckle-guard photo you posted.

I might add, the "surviving" pin on the unbroken end is facing out. If it were in fact a drawer-pull, the pins would be facing each other. Also, pulls are rarely finished on both sides.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

older drawer-pull were finished on both sides. thats def one. It curves in exactly where it should.

 

[taz42o]

Good job CannonballGuy. Here is a pic showing the little pointed finger that goes into the pommel.
I had a feeling it was something more interesting than a drawer pull.
The same goes for wills other post of the brass caps with two holes, I think those also deserve more research.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

A drawer-pull's shape is made to give your fingers a wide, flat surface to hook behind as you pull. Please go look at the drawer-pulls on your kitchen counter drawers. You'll see that they are mounted with their flat surface facing outward toward you. (The same is true about the cabinet pull-handles.) If Jrwill's unknown object is a drawer-pull, your fingers are hooked behind its narrow edge. That is the opposite from a typical pull-handle's form.

 

[jrwill56]

had to go back, even in the cold.

went back to the location for a short while,cold, found another decorated piece of bronze, or brass. it was about 2 ft from the other piece.
it is 5/16" on the narrow end, 8/16" on large end. 1/2" wide. hope it goes with the other 2 pieces.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

thats a newer drawer picture. some of the older handles would pivet up and down. There are different kinds of drawer pulls, drawers, cabinets and so forth. The pins could face out or in. They made them both ways.

 

[jrwill56]

two faced

found these brass items today, the bullet looking piece is hollow, about 2" long and 3/8" at base and 1/4" at narrow end no threads.

the pull handle looking piece is 4" across, 1/2" at the widest part, has a mans face on one side a woman's on the other . why such a sharp end?

after cleaning i can see another face on each side of this item, looks like a clown or jester.

 

[Reed Lukens]

You know... I also have an old pewter beer mug with an intricate handle shaped like that.
I just wanted to confuse the issue a little more Hand guard from a sword or a handle from a beer mug are good possibilities but at 4" across I think is too wide for a drawer pull now that I see it; as most are or were no more than 3" across