Mix and match but from the same hole

[smallfoot]

Everything in this group was found in the same place...there's a couple that are out of place as far as my experience. I can explain the meg tooth. If we find them now, native americans could have found them. I don't see any indication the the tooth was altered for use as a tool. The other oddball is the large piece upper right. It's a large, flat, thin piece of coquina, ground grooves on both sides for hafting I suspect. Probably couldn't go more central in between coasts here and I guess the distance to either coast in that spot is no more than 75 miles. I've never found a coquina tool before or since. Some of the bone items were damaged years ago while I was setting up for a picture and had all that stuff laid out on a blanket. Turned around for just a second and my dog was crunching on a few...jeez! I never did catalogue any of the pottery I found so I couldn't show any of that with any certainty now. There were numerous shards/sherds there along with some points and many brokes and debitage. If you want pix of anything close up just ask and I'll take some more. There is one antler piece there that looks as if it was altered to be a handle. Some interesting marks on it.

 

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[Older The Better]

What’s the age do you think, looks similar to a hopewell site I’ve found, lots of bone scrapers drills pottery and the like. Also the really dark bone looks much older. You have a reason it’s different from the others?
I had my dog crunch one from my site too... for years they showed no interest in the bones I had some drying from a recent trip to the site and one of them decided to crunch a scapula from something raccoon sized.

 

[Older The Better]

Your one labeled 18a also looks very similar
I’ve always wondered about that one because of the shape,

 

[H.P.]

Very nice artifacts, what area ?..I know what they are except the tubular piece with hole in end,?

 

[smallfoot]

What’s the age do you think, looks similar to a hopewell site I’ve found, lots of bone scrapers drills pottery and the like. Also the really dark bone looks much older. You have a reason it’s different from the others?
I had my dog crunch one from my site too... for years they showed no interest in the bones I had some drying from a recent trip to the site and one of them decided to crunch a scapula from something raccoon sized.

If you are referring to the darker pieces left of the ruler in the last pic those are stag pieces. The only other piece that's kinda darker and bone is that thing next to the ruler on the right. I'm not sure what it's purpose was and that's all the piece I found but it does look like an ancient hole drilled thru. Every time I think I might have a time line down for my finds there is dispute by enough knowledgeable people here to talk me into rethinking. Maybe late Archaic or Woodland is where I'm at now.
Your small tool pictured is much like mine in that pile. I suspect a drill, perforator, or awl for some task. Mine is biface, and on the rounded end it's worked all the way around like it could also be used as a scraper of some sort.

 

[smallfoot]

Very nice artifacts, what area ?..I know what they are except the tubular piece with hole in end,?

It would be considered St. Johns Drainage. I'm not certain which piece you're talking about. If the upper left piece, it's a piece of hollow bone, ground smooth on both ends , possibly just a bead. If you're talking about the piece center right of the ruler, unknown item but has a man made hole bored thru it.

 

[Older The Better]

Are your antler tips drilled like beads or do you think they were flaking tools or I’ve seen them in overstreet as points.. found a few of those too

 

[smallfoot]

Are your antler tips drilled like beads or do you think they were flaking tools or I’ve seen them in overstreet as points.. found a few of those too

I'm not sure if it works for everybody but I can click on the pix a few times and zoom in. I don't have any drilled antler tips. The one next to the ruler has grooves cut into the inner surface which was hollowed out and while shaping the outer surface left a little nub in what looks to be an attempt to facilitate tying a tool on. The other tip laying next to that one is snapped near where the end of a groove was cut and I think you can see that in the pic.

 

[Older The Better]

I assume these are tines. Couldn’t tell if the hole was a natural damage or drilled

 

[smallfoot]

Here's some close up shots of the work on one of the antler tips I spoke of. Definitely some man made moves here. Even poor antler is still solid although some is like bone marrow inside, but this one was hollowed out and cut to shape. I find this one is of the more interesting ones.

 

[smallfoot]

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I assume these are tines. Couldn’t tell if the hole was a natural damage or drilled

Nossir, all of those are bone.

 

[Older The Better]

That would explain it. Still good stuff

 

[willjo]

A lot of the pieces looks like knapping tools and the piece of Coquina looks like an abrading stone for a knapping kit

 

[antmike915]

Excellent finds and examples.

 

[MAMucker]

I was setting up for a picture and had all that stuff laid out on a blanket. Turned around for just a second and my dog was crunching on a few...jeez!

It’s funny, but Not funny.

A few years back, I found the tiniest and most perfect pinky-nail sized milky-white quartz triangle -needle tip and all. It was a work of miniature art for sure. It was also a miniature of a well established type.

I handed it to my son to inspect under the kitchen lights and he dropped it. Ceramic flooring ended it’s perfection in a fraction of a second. I heard it ricochet in two directions

We both just stared at each other in silence

 

[H.P.]

I was setting up for a picture and had all that stuff laid out on a blanket. Turned around for just a second and my dog was crunching on a few...jeez!

It’s funny, but Not funny.

A few years back, I found the tiniest and most perfect pinky-nail sized milky-white quartz triangle -needle tip and all. It was a work of miniature art for sure. It was also a miniature of a well established type.

I handed it to my son to inspect under the kitchen lights and he dropped it. Ceramic flooring ended it’s perfection in a fraction of a second. I heard it ricochet in two directions

We both just stared at each other in silence

..I broke a point a couple of days ago while photographing, not Lol.

 

[H.P.]

Here's some close up shots of the work on one of the antler tips I spoke of. Definitely some man made moves here. Even poor antler is still solid although some is like bone marrow inside, but this one was hollowed out and cut to shape. I find this one is of the more interesting ones.View attachment 1877362View attachment 1877363View attachment 1877364

That’s a very cool piece and with a little thought about NA tools it’s use can be figured out ( I think ) nice rescue...I was talking about the bead, I didn’t know if it was a pipe stem, thanks for sharing, I like all stuff but I’m of course partial to fla.

 

[H.P.]

Here's some close up shots of the work on one of the antler tips I spoke of. Definitely some man made moves here. Even poor antler is still solid although some is like bone marrow inside, but this one was hollowed out and cut to shape. I find this one is of the more interesting ones.View attachment 1877362View attachment 1877363View attachment 1877364

..would like to see a frontal and two end views I want to try an I.D. It

 

[smallfoot]

Here's some I just took of both the antler piece and the bone(tube). It may well be a pipe stem but all I know about it is that the ends have been ground smooth and rounded off. This was not a water find so I doubt that the smoothing was due to water damage.

 

[Fat]

This is just awesome.
The black bone? piece has the look of an animal? Ears and a longer snout?
and the “one off” has the correct texture and form to be some sort of abrasive tool.
The sharks teeth Ive found are from around Omaha Ne. On the Missouri river. Little things, smaller than most “birdpoints”, would a bigger tooth cut like a steak knife? I really dont know, but if so, no-need to alter, just slice off another piece for me , please..