Miller table surface

[DukeArdelis]

I need some help identifying this as the right surface for my miller table.

I know this has been discussed already but but the last post before mine was a few years ago, I asked abou it here: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/gold-prospecting/399130-found-miller-table-surface-7.html, post #102 is mine.

There hasn't been any activity on the thread for a week so I decided to make a new one dedicated to the subject.

After a lot of thinking and reading the posts on the forum I decided to use the easy liner for my new miller table.

I found this on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

but the codes, and the label are slightly different than the ones I found in the posts, and beside the cost of the mat of approx $9 the cost of shipping to Croatia is around $30, so buying the wrong mat can be expensive.

My first question is, is this the mat AZ used to make his miller table, you can find the original post regarding the easy liner mat on the link above.

I have seen that people use the grill mat, but it seams different than the easy liner, and I would like the use the best thing possible since I need to recover ultra fine gold.

Second question,

I have some plexiglass tables, you can see them in the pics below. Both are 1/2 inch thick. I was thinking of cutting both sides on the bigger table at 2" from the sides, and make a table that is 20" wide and 36" long. Will this be O.K. for a miller table?



Thanks.

 

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[winners58]

flat exterior paint, black or green when it starts to tack up roll it again to give it texture.
green will let you see the black sand moving more easily...

 

[arizau]

This is a little off subject but it could lead to an alternative solution to recover your gold.

You mention that you are trying to recover "ultra fine gold". Have you determined what minus screen mesh size you are deeming as ultra fine? In other words is it minus 100 mesh, minus 50 plus 100 mesh, minus 30 plus 50 mesh or some of the above? Those are what I and many consider fine gold and some choose to use a miller table to recover it. Anything larger than those sizes is relatively easy to pan provided they are classified to like sizes of about half the size of the next larger screen before you try to pan them. Even the smaller sizes can be panned when you only try to pan them in small quantities of about one or two tablespoons at a time. One important thing to know is that when gold is about the same plus/minus mesh size as everything else in the pan it is at least two to three times heavier than any other particle. If you choose the miller table then still pre-classify before running for best results.

Good luck on your project.

 

[No gold in NY]

Use what AZ says to use. I got my liner at Lowes a lot cheaper than what you are quoting. It works great. I recover specks so small I can hardly believe I can see them. Remove the black sand first! The bed is a multi layer 3/4" concrete form plywood with an ultra smooth finish. Does not warp.

 

[DukeArdelis]

Yes I want to use the same surface as AZ did, but the problem is that it does not exist on every corner in Europe. We have hardware stores like Bauhaus, and similar but they don't sell Duck products with the exception of Duck tape.

I found the easy liner made by Duck, but the cheapest I can get is on amazon for about $ 40 with shipping, on amazon.co.uk or amazon.de it's close $ 70. If I'm going to spend that much on a surface I need to know it's the right one.

That is why I posted a link to the easy liner sold on amazon, so that someone can confirm that they are the same used by AZ, just with a different label.

I was thinking of using green board paint, but the one I can buy needs a special primer, and both together cost around $ 50, so I decided to use the easy liner.

@arizau

I'm not sure what mesh the gold is, I'm still working on my fluid bed sluice ( will post it once its finished ), what I know is from scarce literature on gold prospecting in Croatia, and in one part it is stated that there are 8000 - 10 000 gold pieces in 1 gram of gold. On the other hand with the tools they used they were unable to catch any bigger gold, they used a rough plank and threw the gravel right on it, and sprinkled it with water, similar to a miller table with a rough surface for sluicing.

 

[No gold in NY]

Wow, I didn't know you were in Europe. We tried to help a guy in Thailand build an airboat. Boy was he having problems. I'll try to get to Lowes soon and check for the new labeling and the code number.

 

[russau]

On my Miller table , I used a piece of real slate and it worked best out of the black board paint and others BUT I sold it and now Im making one from that EZ liner that was posted (AZviper)on one of these forums! AZviper did a real nice job and presentation that he did and Im sure he will add a lot to this post. BUT you can get online to Home Depot and buy it from there. I have found that amazon is higher priced on most of their stuff. Look up his page and scroll down until you see his pictures and explanation of it

 

[Capt Nemo]

I run with green cutting mats sanded with 400 grit.

 

[goldog]

Good luck Duke. Think like a Croatian. Slate is the original surface. Who knows, maybe someone broke a pool table. There are some very soft but durable rubber or plastic materials that will work. Silicone kitchenware.

 

[No gold in NY]

I went shopping for Easy Liner. Home Depot had everything but.

WalMart had the new labeling item #284148 20"X6' $8.74.

Lowes had the new labeling item #37961 12"X7' $7.30. Also, item #757590 20"X12' $15.99. The black Easy Liner was the same in all cases. Seems like the item number changes, but it is the same Easy Liner

 

[DukeArdelis]

Thanks No gold, I'm very grateful for the trouble you made for me. The one sold on amazon.com has the label with #284148, the only difference from a few days ago is that now it's nearly twice the cost it was a few days ago. Still its a lot less than I would pay for it in Europe, so I'll order it shortly.

The plexiglass boards I have are very smooth, so I guess they should be fine for the table base.

I need one more advise, what kind of glue should I use, I don't know what kind of material is the easy liner made from, and I guess you guys (and gals) know more about how to and with what to glue it to a surface like plexiglass.

 

[No gold in NY]

I used Scotch super 77 spray adhesive I think AZ recommended it in his post. I suppose most any spray contact adhesive would work. If you haven't viewed AZ's thread on his construction I recommend you do.

 

[newbAu]

I use a green 12X18 hobby mat. You can buy them at any local craft/hobby shop. I tried the ez liner method, but it makes it very difficult to see the black sand washing away. Real slate is the way to go, if you can get your hands on it. Chalkboard paint works also.

 

[No gold in NY]

I see no point of running black sand on the miller table. Being heavy it could be slow to move along and could bump the gold along. I always remove it from the cons.