Military Revolt Against Obama’s Attack on Syria

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Military Revolt Against Obama’s Attack on Syria

Both top brass and regular servicemembers express opposition to US involvement

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
September 2, 2013

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The military revolt against the Obama administration’s plan to launch a potentially disastrous attack on Syria is gathering pace, with both top brass and regular servicemembers expressing their vehement opposition to the United States becoming entangled in the conflict.

The backlash began to spread on social media yesterday with numerous members of the military posting photos of themselves holding up signs stating that they would refuse to fight on the same side as Al-Qaeda in Syria. The photos went viral, with one post alone generating over 16,000 shares on Facebook.

Others have posted their photos on Twitter alongside the hashtag #IdidntJoin.

As the Obama administration prepares to present a draft resolution to lawmakers that is by no means “limited” in its scope and would in fact grease the skids for an open ended war, John Kerry and other State Department officials have signaled that Obama will simply ignore Congress if they vote no and launch the assault anyway.

This will do little to reassure a growing number of influential figures in the US military who are becoming increasingly recalcitrant about the United States becoming embroiled in yet another war in the Middle East.

The Washington Post reports that, “The Obama administration’s plan to launch a military strike against Syria is being received with serious reservations by many in the U.S. military, which is coping with the scars of two lengthy wars and a rapidly contracting budget, according to current and former officers.”

Republican Congressman Justin Amash also took to Twitter to state, “I’ve been hearing a lot from members of our Armed Forces. The message I consistently hear: Please vote no on military action against Syria.” Amash’s statement was followed by a series of tweets from military veterans who also expressed their opposition to the attack.

Business Insider’s Paul Szoldra also spoke to “sources who are either veterans or currently on active duty in the military,” and asked them if they supported military escalation in Syria.

“Most have responded with a resounding no,” writes Szoldra.

He quotes an active duty First Class Sergeant who states, “We are stretched thin, tired, and broke,” adding that the United States “(does not) need to be World Police.”

“Our involvement in Syria is so dangerous on so many levels, and the 21st century American vet is more keen to this than anybody. It boggles my mind that we are being ignored,” adds former Cpl. Jack Mandaville, a Marine Corps infantry veteran with 3 deployments to Iraq.

Not only are military personnel going public with their concerns, Politico reported that leaks of attack plans are also, “emanating from a Pentagon bureaucracy less enthusiastic about the prospect of an attack than, say, the State Department, National Security Council or Obama himself,” unauthorized disclosures that have the White House “peeved”.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Electronic Army hacked the official US Marines website and left an astounding message calling on US soldiers to join the Syrian Army in fighting Al-Qaeda (click for enlargement).

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The full text of the message reads:

“This is a message written by your brothers in the Syrian Army, who have been fighting al-Qaida for the last 3 years. We understand your patriotism and love for your country so please understand our love for ours. Obama is a traitor who wants to put your lives in danger to rescue al- Qaida insurgents.

Marines, please take a look at what your comrades think about Obama’s alliance with al-Qaida against Syria. Your officer in charge probably has no qualms about sending you to die against soldiers just like you, fighting a vile common enemy. The Syrian army should be your ally not your enemy.

Refuse your orders and concentrate on the real reason every soldier joins their military, to defend their homeland. You’re more than welcome to fight alongside our army rather than against it.

Your brothers, the Syrian army soldiers. A message delivered by the SEA.”

View a selection of US servicemembers expressing their opposition to the attack on Syria via the #IdidntJoin meme on Twitter below.

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Well, come on all of you big strong men
Prez Obozo needs your help again
Gettin himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Syria land
Put down your books and pick up a gun
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

And it's 1,2,3 what are we fightin for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damm
Next war's in Syria land
And it's 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee, they're all gonna die.

And the idiocy continues...
 

Well, come on all of you big strong men
Prez Obozo needs your help again
Gettin himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Syria land
Put down your books and pick up a gun
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

And it's 1,2,3 what are we fightin for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damm
Next war's in Syria land
And it's 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee, they're all gonna die.

And the idiocy continues...

Country Joe !!!

An excellent follow to this post....
 

if they really feel that way ok, but you did read the fine print when you signed up didn't you? No obey- go to jail
 

Hate to tell you jeff but orders that go against constitutional law are not lawful orders.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
 

ROFL....yes, a soldier can refuse to obey an order they feel is illegal...but...catch 22...

if you refuse to obey an order, then you are personally responsible for the consequences...

as jeff stated, go to the stockade...perhaps even the brick house at fort levenworth...a
BCD, or dishonorable is in their future.
 

if you refuse to obey an order, then you are personally responsible for the consequences...

as jeff stated, go to the stockade...perhaps even the brick house at fort levenworth...a
BCD, or dishonorable is in their future.

And if that said order is against constitutional law and you obey it take a guess what happens:laughing7:
 

I'm sure if Majority Refuse, Majority Rule

Like anything else, if enough say No, The police can't handle the Overload.

They gonna trow 10,000 US Soldiers in a stockade?

Who's going to volunteer to cuff the first one ?
 

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yes.
ever heard of LBJ jeff?

http://www.vcn.bc.ca/~jjones/hstrnt.html
"What upper bound on numbers is indicated by U.S. statistics?
An official U.S. review of the data cites 209,517 cases of accused draft offenders and 100,000 less-than-honorable military discharges for absence offenses – a total that exceeds 300,000. By the 1977 Carter pardon the same source estimates a total of 11,000 American offenders at large, the “overwhelming majority” in exile. In the early 1970s the United States made liberal use of administrative measures to reduce embarrassing numbers."

been there, done that.
 

if they really feel that way ok, but you did read the fine print when you signed up didn't you? No obey- go to jail

Oh, that time long ago, I was young and had no idea what was coming. I just wanted the free education. I knew that education would set me free from the cotton mills...

I obeyed, some went to Canada, some to Sweden, but I obeyed - didn't know what else to do.

And I came home changed, all of us did. I've read data which says that of the around 6m veterans, only around 800k remain alive today with 400 passing daily.

No one wanted us back, and all we lived for was to come home.

Yes, it took time to put our worlds together again.

The next time we go to war, I want it to be when the enemy is coming ashore here.

Then, we will be fighting for something - versus nothing but shame.
 

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well...am I a ***** or what...that made me cry deepseeker...

Thanks SC. You know from your own experience what the real deal is.

My friend, we have to oppose this travesty.

Roger
 

ok...last post of the day here...
I found this quote.
"To fight fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
 

So..if you all oppose...


What is the world to do while hundreds die daily and governments commit travesties.?

Guess we just watch them all die.... easy solution while we all live in luxury and eat our sirloin stakes on our bbq....after we spent the day out chasing treasures in the free world.

SCREW THE REST OF THE WORLD...GREAT SOLUTION BOYS !!!
 

Another quote to ponder...By author Randy Wayne White<

" In any conflict, the boundaries of behavior are determined by the party that cares least about morality" Gary

"The warrior controls his enemy by causing frustration, aggravation, confusion, and harassment......" Chang Yz
 

Are we calling the conflict over there a civil war? When we had one we lost 750 thousand and nobody came to help. When that number gets over that over there I agree we have to save who's left. That's why we call it CIVIL. don't we?
 

So..if you all oppose...


What is the world to do while hundreds die daily and governments commit travesties.?

Guess we just watch them all die.... easy solution while we all live in luxury and eat our sirloin stakes on our bbq....after we spent the day out chasing treasures in the free world.

SCREW THE REST OF THE WORLD...GREAT SOLUTION BOYS !!!

I take it you have never been under fire, and you have never watched your friends die, for a war that was not about your whole world.

Shame on you for condemning those who have, and those who choose not to repeat. Shame on you.

Just what qualifies you? Ask yourself that.

It's easy for you to choose for others to die. You enlisting yet???

I thought not
 

Aqua,

I see that you are new here, and welcome to Tnet, and also see from your flag that you are from north of the border. the solution to this problem in the middle east is not simple, and I might also add, not your problem. Condemnation of a decision and of a ideaology is easy, but I would expect that as an ally, and neighbor you would have a more open mind. No one is asking that you agree with what decisions our elected officals make, and while I don't agree with most of them, they are ours under our Constitution....right or wrong....my opinions have been written here often, and I won't repeat them, but don't condemn before you understand....have a nice day...GARY
 

I always what kind of world it is that send children (and they are) off to die! I don't believe there is anyway an individual can fathom what they will experience in battle. ..PTSD changed forever!

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