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Reckon I could post a picture of the button at the gas station to see if anyone claims it.
 

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IronSpike said:
This morning found this militrary button on my way back to the car at the gas station.
Obviously a current date button, but which branch is it, Marine or Navy?

U. S. Navy— or possibly a blazer/fashion button made in imitation of one.
 

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Thanks replies.

Imitation was my first thought too. But then again why such a nice quality if imitation only? Also, agree with Texastee that it resambles older button designs. If I had found it in the ground I would have been fooled "sweet, nice old button". ;D
 

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PBK said:
IronSpike said:
This morning found this militrary button on my way back to the car at the gas station.
Obviously a current date button, but which branch is it, Marine or Navy?

U. S. Navy— or possibly a blazer/fashion button made in imitation of one.
It resembles US Navy but without any backmarks, I would guess blazer/fashion. http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=93&idproduct=21353
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http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=5
 

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Blazer/fashion button it is. Thanks guys for ID-ing :thumbsup:
 

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IronSpike said:
Blazer/fashion button it is. Thanks guys for ID-ing :thumbsup:

Don't be too quick to discount it as a military Navy button just because of no backmark.

The quick release cotter pin on this button tells me it's most likely military. Those pins means buttons can be taken off the uniform for cleaning and / or changed for newer or different buttons depending on style requirements.

When is the last time any of us bought a coat or blazer with removeable buttons?

If I had a Navy contract I might not invest in tooling for a back mark...
 

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Here are pics of some military buttons and of one that you pictured....of course, these aren't old LOL

The black cotter pins were from 1974 time frame from the female pin stripe Summer Light Blues.

The Gold buttons, and people argue with me, were from my first set of dress blues....yes, enlisted females DID wear Gold buttons! I would not have saved them if we didn't! Grrrrr!

I think the silver cotter pin button was a choice we had on our uniforms instead of sewing them on...can't remember off hand...sorry.

I cut the buttons off all my old uniforms before I turned them in for new uniform issues (some folks did not know you could do that and not have to buy the new uniforms...don't know if you can still do that!)

And the Gold button is the only one with a watermark on the back...the black cotter pin buttons only have "17" on them. No markings on any other button. The black cotter pins are of a plastic material.

Anyways....here you go...
Annmarie

PS: ok....decided to take magnifer to buttons.....the silver buttons (cotter pin, small and large ones) all have "W.B. Co." on then, where the cotter pin/eyelet is at. The black cotter pins all have different numbers? 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, 12, 15, 17 (2), 19 (2), 23, 33. (17 and 19, I have two of each)...wonder what the numbers mean?
 

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Montana Jim said:
IronSpike said:
Blazer/fashion button it is. Thanks guys for ID-ing :thumbsup:

Don't be too quick to discount it as a military Navy button just because of no backmark.

The quick release cotter pin on this button tells me it's most likely military. Those pins means buttons can be taken off the uniform for cleaning and / or changed for newer or different buttons depending on style requirements.

When is the last time any of us bought a coat or blazer with removeable buttons?

If I had a Navy contract I might not invest in tooling for a back mark...

Sorry too quick with the check mark. Thanks for explaining the function of the pin.

Ron and Ann said:
Here are pics of some military buttons and of one that you pictured....of course, these aren't old LOL

The black cotter pins were from 1974 time frame from the female pin stripe Summer Light Blues.

The Gold buttons, and people argue with me, were from my first set of dress blues....yes, enlisted females DID wear Gold buttons! I would not have saved them if we didn't! Grrrrr!

I think the silver cotter pin button was a choice we had on our uniforms instead of sewing them on...can't remember off hand...sorry.

I cut the buttons off all my old uniforms before I turned them in for new uniform issues (some folks did not know you could do that and not have to buy the new uniforms...don't know if you can still do that!)

And the Gold button is the only one with a watermark on the back...the black cotter pin buttons only have "17" on them. No markings on any other button. The black cotter pins are of a plastic material.

Anyways....here you go...
Annmarie

PS: ok....decided to take magnifer to buttons.....the silver buttons (cotter pin, small and large ones) all have "W.B. Co." on then, where the cotter pin/eyelet is at. The black cotter pins all have different numbers? 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, 12, 15, 17 (2), 19 (2), 23, 33. (17 and 19, I have two of each)...wonder what the numbers mean?

Now that you point out I do see some marking on the eyelet. Thanks explanation and pictures.
 

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Thank you Ann, great pictures. TN is a constant learning experience for me. :thumbsup: Anyone know what W.B. & Co. is? Is this design still used today by the US Navy?

The link I posted actually shows a button without a visible backmark but I was just guessing on the blazer. http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=5
 

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Your most welcome Iron and Cypress...my pleasure! Always happy to assist in anyway possible. These buttons I saved are from the time frame (1974-1979). In 1974, issued Dark Navy Blue jacket with skirt (Dress Blues). Collar had anchors on them (I saved them too, they are in the frame with my first honorable discharge!). That is the uniform I cut off the gold, then silver ones to trade in for the new issue Dress Blues. There was another time we had a new issue of Dress Blues...can't remember when though? They say they are Navy Blue, but I swear, they look Black!!!

I wish I could remember what the Silver cotter pin buttons and the smaller silver non cotter pin buttons were for....the gold were off my blues when we had to change to silver. Of course those plastic type black cotter pin buttons were off the female pinstripe uniform and they NEVER stayed on!!!! Esp for those very well endowed...so I never had a problem! ::) ;D

Oh, by the way...here's a pic of me (stop laughing! ;D) in my blues from bootcamp...see the GOLD buttons. I was enlisted! :) Yeah me! LOL. The anchors on the collar, those are what I cut off and of course, I still have my hat pin!

Next photo....me in Wash, DC (1974)...wearing the Summer Light Blues (pinstripes).

Next photo....me in Queens, NY at my grandmother's funeral dinner with family, when my family told me to go over to this table. I didn't know anything about the NY Jets....I was told this is Joe Klecko and his Dad. (I know they are father and son, he introduced him to me as his Dad!) I can't remember. But anyways, by this time, you see our NEW Dress Blues.....no anchor on the collar, hat device is silver and of an eagle and silver buttons. (1982)

Anyways, I was trying to do a timeline of photos of the uniform, but I guess I don't have them all scanned in...oh well....

There I go again...I'm so long winded...sorry! :P :-* :icon_sunny:

PS: W.B. Co is for Waterbury....they made our buttons...based in Connecticut.

PSS (again): EAGLE ON CROWS/DEVICES-- for many years the U.S. specified modified forms of the Napoleonic Eagle in the devices and insignia used to distinguish the various ranks and ratings of enlisted men and officers. This eagle was usually cast, stamped or embroidered facing left and the same practice was used by the Navy. Why the Napoleonic eagle faced left is unknown. In 1941 the Navy changed the eagles facing direction to follow the Heraldic rules which faces the right toward the wearers sword arm. This rule continues to apply and the eagle now faces to the front or the wearers right. (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navy/l/bluniformhist.htm)

Another good link about military uniform history: http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/uniform_history.htm
 

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