metal arrowhead

[donkarlos]

Posted elsewhere but I wondered if anyone might have an idea for the age of this arrowhead from New England

 

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[GatorBoy]

What type of context was it found in? looking at the other items and the lack of patina on the metal.. I'd say it wasn't very old and might have been just a trinket.

 

[donkarlos]

Old colonial wagon trail. Found musket ball, 1820 large cent, pewter flatware (pictured), pieces of buckle, etc.

 

[GatorBoy]

I don't see anything you just mentioned. I see a Roosevelt dime where's the musket ball and large cent?

 

[donkarlos]

Other posts..I was just giving an idea of the area

 

[donkarlos]

Here is a close up of the back side to show some of the patina

 

[GatorBoy]

Much better lighting on that photo.. cool piece.
Looks copper. Maybe try doing expanding circles from where you found it to see if you find anything else in that general area.

 

[donkarlos]

Thanks- Can't wait to go back. Targets are few but once in a while something pops up.

 

[GatorBoy]

If there's any water close by I'd definitely spend some time around that

 

[donkarlos]

Yep. Went back and found nothing near the arrowhead site but 1/4 mile away on the road I found this beauty:







My second musket ball in this area

 

[GatorBoy]

Is that still dirt on it or is that rust?
Also is that inches or centimeters? I can't really get a good measurement of either since it is closer to the camera than the measuring tool.
I know these questions aren't related to Native American artifacts and that is the forum we're in but I'm trying to establish a time period For the objects. I even looked at your other thread in the other forum and I'm having a hard time seeing anything that dates back to that time period

 

[donkarlos]

Its dirt - I tend not to clean stuff much. Couldn't find my caliper so yep, the yardstick's dimension is unclear but it is about 5/8".
As for other area finds - I found this large cent last year:

 

[GatorBoy]

Well good luck in your future hunts.
Walking long distances along a trail you're probably crossing many different areas settled and occupied by many different people over time.
That large cent is made of copper and in amazing condition considering the length of time it must have been out in the elements.

 

[Charl]

You didn't mention what state. If found in southeastern New England, and if it's a metal point, would date to the 17th century. Photo shows typical 17th century triangles cut from metal kettles for the most part. These are from a Seneca Iroquois site in NY. Your point looks pretty thick for a native made trade point. I've never seen one that style, but looks like a point to me; not much else it could be. From Western Ma. into northern New England, natives were still free roaming in the 18th century, and the point could date 18th century. Western Ma. was still frontier. The town of Deerfield, Ma was attacked several times in the French and Indian Wars.

 

[donkarlos]

Yep, southeastern NE. Thanks for the info and history. The design does look a little different from those kettle arrowheads as you pointed out. Here is another arrowhead I found in the region, but made of stone. It has a similar shape.



I might add that my metal arrowhead seems to me to be quite thin, but maybe the picture doesn't make it seem so.

 

[Charl]

Yep, southeastern NE. Thanks for the info and history. The design does look a little different from those kettle arrowheads as you pointed out. Here is another arrowhead I found in the region, but made of stone. It has a similar shape.

I might add that my metal arrowhead seems to me to be quite thin, but maybe the picture doesn't make it seem so.

Just looked thicker then average is all. They're usually extremely thin. It's a nice find. The black point is a felsite Levanna point. It dates to the Late Woodland, in the 500-1000 year old range.

 

[donkarlos]

Wow you're kidding me! I was hopin for a couple hundred years old. Thanks

 

[leddel]

yes what part of So.N.E. was it found in ?? It don't look too far off to a tradition type of point
from around these parts but there were many tribes and subtribes. here are a few typs of points we've found in southern Ct.

 

[jamey]

thats a nice copper arrowhead.and nice story.the stone one does look like the copper one,really neat thanks for sharing that.i wonder who showed them the copper,the indians who were already using it,or the french?

 

[Charl]

yes what part of So.N.E. was it found in ?? It don't look too far off to a tradition type of point
from around these parts but there were many tribes and subtribes. here are a few typs of points we've found in southern Ct.

Great examples of the variety of copper/brass trade points that can be found in southern New England. Thanks for posting those. I have found a couple of the style I illustrated above here in Rhode Island. Sounds like donkarlos's stuff was probably SE Ma. Those are nice, and date 1600's in all likelihood. I love Contact Era stuff. Like finding things that were used when the Pilgrims were here, etc., all the names from Contact Era history, both native and colonial alive when the point was used.