medieval coin

[marty persall]

Medieval Coin Found In Oklahoma ?

Let me be more clear, I found the coin pictured on the left, the picture on the right is for reference only.

thanks guys for your input.

Czech coin minting reform was introduced by Wenceslaus II (1278 to 1305AD). Thanks to rich deposits of silver in Kutna Hora, Prague groschen became a substitute for still circulating dinars and brektty.

These are silver coins which weigh near 4 grams with fineness around 0.930. Prague groschen over the centuries show a stylized image of a crown and, on the other side, a crowned two-tailed lion. Names of individual rules appear on the inner circle of the crown side, with DEI GRATIA REX BOHEMIA on the outer circle. There is a good summary of these coins at stribrnak.cz.

WENCEZLAVS SECUNDUS 1278-1305
PRIMUS IOHANNES 1310-1346
PRIMUS KAROLUS 1346-1378
WENCEZLAVS TERCIUS 1378-1419
PRIMUS LADISLAVS 1453-1457
PRIMUS GEORGIUS 1458-1471
WLADISLAVS SECUNDUS 1471-1516
PRIMUS LUDOVICUS 1516-1526
FPRIMUS FERDINANDUS 1526-1564

 

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[Coinstar magnet]

I imagine someone put there would need the dimensions and weight....almost looks like the top of a wine bottle after cutting the seal off at first glance...before pulling the cork out...

 

[Gene Mean]

A picture of the reverse will help a lot.

 

[Red-Coat]

Welcome to Tnet

It does appear to be based on a gross of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles IV (aka Karl IV von Luxemburg and Karolus Primus in Bohemia) with the dates you gave of 1346-1378. However, I believe it to be a modern replica. This one is in yellow metal, but they have been produced in a variety of metals, including silver (which is what the originals were struck in):

Replica

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia210631.html

Some refer to them as “tokens” but I think not, except in the sense that they might see or have seen use in card games.

Compare to the much less refined quality of engraving on the die for the real thing:

Authentic

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces81650.html

 

[jewelerguy]

any more I feel lucky to dig a wheat penny in my part of Oklahoma

 

[marty persall]

I guess I should be more clear, I found the coin on the left, the pic on the right was for reference only.
My apologies.
Thank You for your i put.

 

[CRUSADER]

Welcome to Tnet

It does appear to be based on a gross of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles IV (aka Karl IV von Luxemburg and Karolus Primus in Bohemia) with the dates you gave of 1346-1378. However, I believe it to be a modern replica. This one is in yellow metal, but they have been produced in a variety of metals, including silver (which is what the originals were struck in):

Replica

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia210631.html

Some refer to them as “tokens” but I think not, except in the sense that they might see or have seen use in card games.

Compare to the much less refined quality of engraving on the die for the real thing:

Authentic

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces81650.html

Agreed, a cast copy.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Marty...it's a great find, no matter what!

I'm sure you're not feeling peachy about the gentlemen describing
it as a replica coin, but when it comes to coins these fellows really
know their stuff.

 

[Red-Coat]

Hi Marty

Although you have now edited your post to provide clarification, I did realise that the coin on the left was the one you found and that the other picture was from the internet for comparison.

I don’t know where you found that ‘reference’ picture, but it also appears to be a modern replica. So, you’re comparing one replica with another, albeit produced in different metals. There are lots of these ‘coins’ being sold on eBay and elsewhere, both with no indication that they are replicas, and also with outright (but false) claims that they are authentic. Many of them are obviously produced in yellow metal alloys which (unlike authentic coins) are not silver.

‘Replica’ is a generous word for most of them in that they have borrowed imagery from real coins, but are stylistically wrong for the period. I already provided a comparison picture of an authentic coin that shows what should expect to see with respect to style and quality of engraving on the die. Here’s another (also Karolus Primus), with your ‘coin’ alongside it… and the authentic coin image comes from the stribrnak.cz website that you mentioned:

 

[marty persall]

thank you sir. love this site and the input.