Medallion found in Caribbean

[Lovemonster]

Anyone want to take a stab at this? Found at the waters edge. About 5 inches down. The previous day I found what i suspect to be an 8 Reale.

About palm size. No sort of clip or markings to suggest a brooch etc. On the back there are thin lines all leading inward.

The large V's appear to be identical to what I found on the Aztec calendar (representing solar rays)

I suspect brass.

Any thoughts?

Pic upload isnt working. Here are links to the pics

Front
http://i.imgur.com/mLTAsAi.jpg


Back
http://i.imgur.com/xWvqu9V.jpg

 

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[DCMatt]

Welcome to the forum. Great pics, btw...

Judging from the conditon, it doesn't look very old. I suspect it is a "Pirates of the Caibbean" Aztec gold medallion.

Love to see the 8 Reale.

DCMatt

 

[Mackaydon]

Welcome to Treasure Net !!

Generic object.
I'm with DCM; lets see the 8R ; both sides please !!
Don.....

 

[Lovemonster]

Thanks guys

The coin pics are not too clear (still new to proper cleaning techniques). I can make out PHIL on the front and RV on the flip.

Here is a sample that matches

Coin 8 Real Bolivia Silver 1630 Philip IV of Spain (1605 -1665)

Here is one pic
http://i.imgur.com/k61ijX3.jpg

 

[woodstock]

I agree with the other members . Just something to modern about the front and the back also makes me question the age and why the front has all the heavy and crude looking embossed design and the back and the back has what looks to be finer and harder to accomplish . So I'd say a modern piece from a card game or something from a game . IMHO , Woodstock

 

[Mackaydon]

Hopefully the reverse side pic will be more informative.
Don.......

 

[CRUSADER]

Hopefully the reverse side pic will be more informative.
Don.......

there is a reverse posted, I agree that its modern trying to look older.

 

[Lovemonster]

Hopefully the reverse side pic will be more informative.
Don.......

Don,

Here is a bit better pic where you can see some lettering. Let me know what you think. I am getting some local advice on cleaning etc.

http://i.imgur.com/v2o3PQV.jpg

 

[Lovemonster]

there is a reverse posted, I agree that its modern trying to look older.

I think Don was referring to reverse of the suspect reale I posted (just posted another pic above)

( I found the coin then went back the next day and found the medallion- a pretty large bay in Virgin Islands)

 

[CRUSADER]

I think Don was referring to reverse of the suspect reale I posted (just posted another pic above)

( I found the coin then went back the next day and found the medallion- a pretty large bay in Virgin Islands)

OK, but they are hundreds of years apart.

 

[Mackaydon]

Thanks for the reverse side pic.
My suggestion (please, no 'flaming' responses) would be to lay a piece of tin foil down, spread some baking soda over it, then lay the coin on the baking soda, then another layer of baking soda; wrapped the foil around the coin and soak it in distilled water for a couple of hours. Then see if you can GENTLY remove the balance of the crud with a tooth pick. If the crud is still stuck, repeat the process for another two hours--then recheck.
Initially, there appears enough of what we can see that a good ID is possible after this process.
Don......

 

[Lovemonster]

Thanks for the reverse side pic.
My suggestion (please, no 'flaming' responses) would be to lay a piece of tin foil down, spread some baking soda over it, then lay the coin on the baking soda, then another layer of baking soda; wrapped the foil around the coin and soak it in distilled water for a couple of hours. Then see if you can GENTLY remove the balance of the crud with a tooth pick. If the crud is still stuck, repeat the process for another two hours--then recheck.
Initially, there appears enough of what we can see that a good ID is possible after this process.
Don......

Just a newbie question- what do you think of electrolysis?

 

[Mackaydon]

Electrolysis works well, as long as you don't 'fry' the coin.
Don.....

 

[Jason in Enid]

Definitely use electrolysis with a light load, like a old cell phone charger or something for the power source. Even then, check it every few minutes. It looks like there is a LOT of detail left in that coin! Good luck and I want to see pics of it after some gentle cleaning.

 

[academicsgenius]

looks great. will it works like in medallion movie