Masons

[bja3908]

Would like your thoughts on why the Mason show up in so many treasure legands
KGC Knights templers etc

 

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[erikk]

It is a very old order and greatly missunderstood. It is not a secret society but a society with secrets

 

[gollum]

Whenever ANYTHING or ANYONE keeps secrets from everybody else, wild stories will ALWAYS be made up about them (CIA, Masons, Templars, Michael Jackson , Defense Dept, Area 51, Skull and Bones, OJ , etc).

Best-Mike

 

[Montana Jim]

Whenever ANYTHING or ANYONE keeps secrets from everybody else, wild stories will ALWAYS be made up about them (CIA, Masons, Templars, Michael Jackson , Defense Dept, Area 51, Skull and Bones, OJ , etc).

Best-Mike

Agreed... it just adds to the drama... the aura... makes it bigger than it really is.

Or - am I just giving misdirection... 8)

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Gollum Mike, I had to laugh at your reply. How true! That's how all the conspiracy theories are born. The minute you tell someone "confidential" or "secret", is the minute they certainly must be plotting to rule the world, and have treasures in their basement! haha When all they are, is a good-old-boy's club who like to drink and shoot pool, etc... All the secret stuff is/was just to create an elitism and status type mentality to their club. Funny how the resulting psychology works

Or how about this one: If someone gets rich off some errant direction of the economy, or a catastophe of some sort, a conspiracy theory is born that they guided and directed events to happen that way, so as to enrich themselves. For example, a certain disease is killing thousands, and a drug-maker invents a drug that cures it. The drug maker gets rich, so certainly they introduced the virus to begin with, in order to make those big bucks Or how the USA money system resides in the control of a select few, who seem to dictate the entire economy. Well certainly they, and their predecessors, set this all up starting back in secret meetings in the 1930s, knowing that it would evolve into the system it is now, right? Naw, it wasn't just an evolution born out of a string of economic necessities & mishaps, it was all planned and orchestrated as a conspiracy to control you and me

 

[Rob66]

I believe the masons are the same as the lumenities a secret order fromed due to church prosecutions. So a lot of hidden communication went on in languages and art and almost every where.

RD

 

[Montana Jim]

Maybe some of our Mason T-Net members will comment for you...

 

[lumbercamp]

My late father was a Mason. He made a point to go to every meeting for over 40 years. He had only missed a few meetings in all those years. He had to call fellow Masons to attend meetings, and those that only came to meals, he called them belly Masons. My dads aunt, my great aunt was treated very nicely in her later years in a Masonic Home in Elizabethtown, Pa. When my father passed away, we received a life insurance benefit from the organization. And my late mother was an Eastern Star member for years.

 

[Pulpfishin]

Would like your thoughts on why the Mason show up in so many treasure legands
KGC Knights templers etc

Simply because our organization has been around for HUNDREDS of years, and there were so many Masons.
It was not formed due to religious persecutions, but for other reasons that I will not divulge. Those are the "secrets" of Masonry, If it were a secret organization I would not have the avatar that I have.

 

[Rob66]

whats the diffrence between masons and freemasons? edumacate me.

"The Masons are said to have secrets and are even called a secret society by many sources. Much controversy from anti-Masonic groups circles around these secrets. In the Middle Ages stonemasons had secrets about their trade that they jealously guarded. These, however, do not seem to be the secrets of Masons today"

I found this.http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/Masons.html

 

[packerbacker]

Hey, even the boyscouts have a secret handshake. All this "secret" talk is just to mystify the non-Masons and make them feel like they are missing out on some secret of life that will never be bestowed on them. C'mon, don't you think that, if there were "secrets" that were really worth knowing, someone would have spilled the beans by now? If there were secrets of untold treasure or the fountain of youth known only to them, why are most of them just ol' common folk like the ones you see at the VFW, Elks and Moose Lodge? Heck, voodoo has more secrets than the Masons and we all know that knowledge isn't worth the price of the monthly dues. It's just a nice little organization that people can join to feel like they are part of the community. Putting on the facade of having secrets is just part of the membership. So, for those of you that feel you are missing something, "dooda dooda " is the secret phrase for August.

 

[packerbacker]

Notice lumbercamps and Pulpfishin's avatars. Are they similar or what? I do believe it's some sort of secret communication between them.

 

[Montana Jim]

Notice lumbercamps and Pulpfishin's avatars. Are they similar or what? I do believe it's some sort of secret communication between them.

LMAO... too funny packer

Folks - They have a secret handshake and memorize and a few lines of text they keep secret... For cripes sake - don't you think that if it was more then that someone woulda joined and divulged all the secrets by now?

These folks are not keeping any secrets that would be the slightest bit interesting to anyone else. If you think they are - then that's kinda funny to me.

I like a good conspiracy theory - but this ain't one of 'em.

 

[Pulpfishin]

Hey, even the boyscouts have a secret handshake. All this "secret" talk is just to mystify the non-Masons and make them feel like they are missing out on some secret of life that will never be bestowed on them. C'mon, don't you think that, if there were "secrets" that were really worth knowing, someone would have spilled the beans by now? If there were secrets of untold treasure or the fountain of youth known only to them, why are most of them just ol' common folk like the ones you see at the VFW, Elks and Moose Lodge? Heck, voodoo has more secrets than the Masons and we all know that knowledge isn't worth the price of the monthly dues. It's just a nice little organization that people can join to feel like they are part of the community. Putting on the facade of having secrets is just part of the membership. So, for those of you that feel you are missing something, "dooda dooda " is the secret phrase for August.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your wrong, one more than one level.
I am an Eagle Scout as well, and there are no monthly dues in Masonry.
If you divide out my annual dues, it comes to $6.25 a month.
Unlike the VFW, Elks and Moose Lodge, we NEVER solicit membership. It is forbidden to do so, and you can be kicked out for it.

The "beans" have bean spilled to some extent, but even if you read whats on the internet you will never know it all. 90% of what you read and see on the Discovery channel is BS anyway.
There is no facade, there are some things that you will never know about Masonry until you become a Master Mason.

The organization is a charity organization centered around service to the comunity.
Ever heard of the Scottish Rite Hospital for hearing impairments, or maybe the Shine burn and orthopedic hospitals.

You cannot be a Shriner unless your a Master Mason first. Most people don't know that, and it's no secret!

 

[Pulpfishin]

whats the difference between masons and freemasons? edumacate me.

The term "Freemason" was started in the late 1600's or early 1700's when slavery was commonplace.
Slaves could be masons, but could not belong to the Freemasons Lodge

There are approximately 250,000 Masons still in Texas, and over 5 million worldwide.

There are lodges in almost every country in the world.

Your link sums up the organization well:

"Freemasonry's basic tenets are:

brotherly love (tolerance, respect, kindness and understanding of others, especially to their Masonic Brothers)
relief (caring for the whole community through philanthropy)
truth (morals)

These basic tenets, when followed, should achieve a higher standard of life for the Masons. Masons build character by contact with the company and shared morals of their "Brothers" (fellow members). Masonry is said to take good men and make them better. It has religious undertones because of this stress on morality. Since Freemasonry is a fraternity, it also stresses the fellowship and enjoyable company of its brothers in social activities such as dinners, picnics, card/chess matches, lectures on Masonic history, etc."

So in a nutshell, ignore those here who run it down.
I often ask them if morals, tolerance, respect, kindness and understanding of others are bad things, most say "Heavens NO".

PM me if you want more info, since you asked, I can discuss it at length with you.

 

[Rob66]

oh well...... its all intresting to me anyway.

 

[lumbercamp]

I just read your reply packerbacker. Funny, I like it.

 

[Treasuredawg]

I agree with Lumbercamp, the Masons have been around for hundreds of years, doing good work in their community. My Father-in-law (87 years old) is a Mason and I have learned a lot from him about the Masons. Growing up in a Baptist church, I misunderstood the Masons, to be some sort of evil organization, I guess, because of the secret side. That was totally unfounded. The lodge here was established in 1861 and most of the men here were members. My sister-in-law had polio when she was a child and was taken in by the Shriners and was cared for at the Shriners hospital in St. Louis and probably saved her life. I have only good things to say about the Masons and Shriners. Thank God for organizations like these.

treasuredawg

 

[packerbacker]

Please don't read me wrong. Any legal organization that helps the community is fine. Just like the VFW, Moose and Elks. The Shriners are my favorite organization by far; they helped my grandson walk! They all help to varying degrees and they are all steeped in tradition. They all have their own agendas and parlimentary proceedings. Just look at the Neanderthalic treatment of women. Women are second class citizens in most of these historical organizations that have been around for a while. It all stems from the old days when women were supposed to just have kids and tend to the cooking, cleaning and raising of the kids. Women haven't really come as far as they think if you look at how these organizations are still operating. The women either don't get involved in their husband's activities because they don't want to feel subserviant or they accept the woman's position, join whatever female group the organization happens to have and do the womanly thing with a happy heart. The men all go into the secret meeting room and make grand plans for the world. My father and grandfather were both Masons and my grandmother was in the WACS and Eastern Star. I was in Demolay when I was in high school. That's the young boys group of Masons. I don't know if girls were allowed to be members. I know we didn't have any in our group. It's not like I am totally ignorant to what the Masons are about. I do know I must have not been trusted with the secrets because I never heard any.

 

[erikk]

Please don't read me wrong. Any legal organization that helps the community is fine. Just like the VFW, Moose and Elks. The Shriners are my favorite organization by far; they helped my grandson walk! They all help to varying degrees and they are all steeped in tradition. They all have their own agendas and parlimentary proceedings. Just look at the Neanderthalic treatment of women. Women are second class citizens in most of these historical organizations that have been around for a while. It all stems from the old days when women were supposed to just have kids and tend to the cooking, cleaning and raising of the kids. Women haven't really come as far as they think if you look at how these organizations are still operating. The women either don't get involved in their husband's activities because they don't want to feel subserviant or they accept the woman's position, join whatever female group the organization happens to have and do the womanly thing with a happy heart. The men all go into the secret meeting room and make grand plans for the world. My father and grandfather were both Masons and my grandmother was in the WACS and Eastern Star. I was in Demolay when I was in high school. That's the young boys group of Masons. I don't know if girls were allowed to be members. I know we didn't have any in our group. It's not like I am totally ignorant to what the Masons are about. I do know I must have not been trusted with the secrets because I never heard any.


It isn't that you were not trusted. You need to be a Master Mason to learn what it is all about

Master Mason, Scotish & York Rite and Shriner