Marine Exploration

[SEAHUNTER]

Marine Exploration, Inc. Releases Radio Interview Discussing the Shipwreck Industry, High Tech Salvage Tools, and Treasures to Expect
Thursday 02/18/2010 6:01 AM ET - Businesswire

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Marine Exploration, Inc. (OTCBB: MEXP), and its Joint Venture Partner Hispaniola Ventures, LLC, have released a recent radio interview with its President Paul Enright. Discussing the shipwreck industry, Mr. Enright comments on the high tech salvage tools used by the dive team on the RV Hispaniola, and the various treasures to expect aboard the inbound and outbound ships that sank.

Interviewed by "Downtown Dave," the show aired on WTAN Clearwater, FL, WDCF Dade City, FL, WZHR Zephyrhills, FL, and on KLRG Little Rock, AR.

Listen to the audio at https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNCTXRWaTE1aWFGa1E9PQ.

For detailed information about Marine Exploration please visit http://www.mexp.biz.

The objects recently found include silver coins, jewels, gold jewelry with pearls, a solid gold ring with diamonds, two hand-held bronze cannons, numerous pistols and cannons, a bell from 1693 with the phrase 'Soli Deo Gloria', guild pewter plates, navigation compasses, plumb lines for measuring depth, a pistol, sword sheaths, ornaments, plates, silverware, sword handles, a device to measure the ship's speed, and bronze candlesticks. Marine Exploration expects to commence salvaging two shipwreck sites concurrently.

About Marine Exploration

Marine Exploration, Inc. and joint venture partner Hispaniola Ventures, LLC, headed by Burt D. Webber Jr., plan to continue the shipwreck site survey and salvage and anticipate locating and recovering additional historic shipwrecks with valuable artifacts and treasure. Working under exclusive contract with the Dominican Republic, the Company has plans in place to pursue multiple notable shipwrecks in Dominican Republic territorial and jurisdictional waters. http://www.mexp.biz/

Forward-Looking Statements

This press release contains statements, which may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Prospective investors are cautioned (http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-e...ude&count=40&action=getcompany&CIK=0001019654) that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully, and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The Company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results. http://www.mexp.biz

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[old man]

SeaHunter, Nice post. I listened to the broadcast. I think what wasn't mentioned in the broadcast is the lawsuits that several poeple filed for non-payment of crew wages. I also know that they have not found any of the wrecks that they were suppose to be looking for that were in their initial Press Releases.

I personally know at least 2 people on this board that invested $10k a piece and had to threaten to sue to get their investment back, because they were never issued the stock that was promised to them. I suggest that you do some serious DD on this company. I have read on another message board that the crew has turned over several times because they were not paid. They claim that the only ones being paid are the inexperienced family members of the person that owns the joint venture company.

Just my opinion.

 

[SEAHUNTER]

Hi Old Man
I am not familiar with the operations of the company or any of it's employee's or principals, but with the kind of treasure they are putting on the decks now they should be able to clear up any problems.

"The objects recently found include silver coins, jewels, gold jewelry with pearls, a solid gold ring with diamonds, two hand-held bronze cannons, numerous pistols and cannons, a bell from 1693 with the phrase 'Soli Deo Gloria', guild pewter plates, navigation compasses, plumb lines for measuring depth, a pistol, sword sheaths, ornaments, plates, silverware, sword handles, a device to measure the ship's speed, and bronze candlesticks. Marine Exploration expects to commence salvaging two shipwreck sites concurrently."

Seahunter

 

[old man]

Hi Old Man
I am not familiar with the operations of the company or any of it's employee's or principals, but with the kind of treasure they are putting on the decks now they should be able to clear up any problems.

"The objects recently found include silver coins, jewels, gold jewelry with pearls, a solid gold ring with diamonds, two hand-held bronze cannons, numerous pistols and cannons, a bell from 1693 with the phrase 'Soli Deo Gloria', guild pewter plates, navigation compasses, plumb lines for measuring depth, a pistol, sword sheaths, ornaments, plates, silverware, sword handles, a device to measure the ship's speed, and bronze candlesticks. Marine Exploration expects to commence salvaging two shipwreck sites concurrently."

Sea Hunter

SeaHunter, From what I understand from one of the crew that left. The Bell was found over 30 years ago and the other items were found in the surf. While I agree they look impressive. This same crew member states that MEXP has spent over $10,000,000 in the last 3 years and in that time, the boat has only left the dock for less then two months total on various dive sites. I don't know about you, but that seems like an awful lot of investors money to spend to have the boat and crew tied up on the beach most of the time.

 

[Alexandre]

This same crew member states that MEXP has spent over $10,000,000 in the last 3 years and in that time, the boat has only left the dock for less then two months total on various dive sites. I don't know about you, but that seems like an awful lot of investors money to spend to have the boat and crew tied up on the beach most of the time.

I fail to see any scandal in this. After all, isn't this the modus operandi of 99% of all treasure hunting firms? Having a life run on investor's money instead of really going out there and finding the goodies?

 

[SEAHUNTER]

Alexandre
Why would you say this?

"I fail to see any scandal in this. After all, isn't this the modus operandi of 99% of all treasure hunting firms? Having a life run on investor's money instead of really going out there and finding the goodies?"
[/quote]

Is this your "modus operandi" ?

I have never taken a penny from an investor and of all the treasure hunting firms I have come in contact with I can only think of one who operates this way.
Seahunter

 

[mariner]

Seahunter,

Well done in pulling up Alexandre for what he said. I tend to just ignore crass comments from extremists, but by leaving them unchallenged, one risks the inference that silence equals agreement.

Of course there are shysters in the TH business, as in all walks of life, but to suggest that 99% (or even the majority) behave that way is way, way over the top. How about withdrawing the remark, Alexandre?

Incidentally, Seahunter, keep up the great work that you do.

Mariner

 

[Salvor6]

The same can be said about marine archaeologists that work for non-profit institutes. 99% of them are corrupt and steal artifacts. A good example is Lucky Eddie and his experience with the West Australia Maritime Museum. The directors there sold everything they could get their hands on to supplement their income. Now tell me truthfully Alexandre, you do not have one single shipwreck artifact in your personal collection, do you?

 

[SEAHUNTER]

The same can be said about marine archaeologists that work for non-profit institutes. 99% of them are corrupt and steal artifacts. A good example is Lucky Eddie and his experience with the West Australia Maritime Museum. The directors there sold everything they could get their hands on to supplement their income. Now tell me truthfully Alexandre, you do not have one single shipwreck artifact in your personal collection, do you?

Salvor6
I have to disagree with you. I have met and worked with many archaeologists, both state employees and independent and I do not believe any of the one's I have met are corrupt. I may have disagreed with some of their viewpoints, but I believe all that I have met to be good and honest people and also proffesionally honest.
Seahunter

 

[SEAHUNTER]

treasureinvestor2
This may be your experience or you may have heard stories of such, but in all my dealings with them they did what they said they would whether I liked it or not and quite often I didn't. But I can not say they dealt dishonestly with me nor unfairly. Nothing came up missing and they did not take anything I did not think they should have. I have no complaints.
Seahunter

 

[aquanut]

Lets open up the stores/vaults in Tallahassee and see what's there. Supposedly there were, at the very least, thousands of coins supplied by the treasure hunting community that have never seen the light of day!

 

[SEAHUNTER]

Hi Aquanut
I don't know how often they see the light of day, because there are some one floor underground in the musuem under the capitol building that is open to the public where you can see lots of treasure brought up by different florida salvage companies and the state holds probably the best collection in the world of spanish coins which they let Alan Craig do two books on. One for gold coins and bars and one for silver coins I believe. So I think it would be a little hard for them to deny these coins since they are published and or displayed in the museum. In the past the state may have had some employees who had their own problems, but the ones I have met I do not believe are corrupt at all. I have not always agreed with their point of view and sometimes was utterly opposed to their position, but I have trusted them with the treasures from the Jupiter Wreck and have not had any problems at all. I can only speak from my own experiences, maybe someone else here has personal experiences that are contrary to mine.
Seahunter

 

[Lucky Eddie]

Since I've been mentioned in despatches above.

Only yesterday I was sent copies of emails snippets relating info about corrupt players in the West Oz maritime / Dutch wreck scene.

One contained allegations that a director of the board of the maritime museum (Dr Playford), ordered a ceo of the maritime museum (Mack McCarthy) to have a early (1700's) wreck survivors inscription & date (zuytdorp) expunged from a sandstone wall in a cave the survivors inhabited, so that - a fasmily memner could receive a large govt grant to "identify the wreck"...

I've seen digitised 16 mm color film from the early 70's of the inscription in the cave, with my own eyes, before it was "expunged" by our maritime museum senior member using a hammer on the soft sandstone / limestone, on a board of directors direction.

I posted the details of the SAME two guys doing the exact same thing back in 1956 to the 1656 Vergulde Draeke inscription at Burns beach Western Australia, when the actual wreck wasn't found at Seabird until 1963 by Alan Robinson.

The same guys had the Zuytdorp rack cairn marker - destroyed!

WHY are our maritime museum so desperate to discredit/remove/destroy ANY written record of early Dutch settlement before Cook in 1770?

I have a few ideas.

One is - that ALL dutch east indiamen captains had "standing orders" when going ashore in the great south land - to erect a rock cairn - to inscribe rocks etc with the date and details and to perform a ceremony to take possession of the said land for the VOC.

Our own maritime museum have been manifestly destroying all such evidence since the early 1920's. (I know that they weren't forned as a maritime Museum under legislation until the 1970's BUT the participants in early searches including the chief of police the editor of the West Australian Newspaper, Playford & Mickelberge boys, some of there people went on to become members of the board controlling the maritime museum so they had "their own agenda" right from the outset)!

Heres a few quotes from some of the emails I've received from those in the know at the time.

Here’s your weekend reading, I’ve extracted it from here and there thru my files

thanks for info - a friend of mine who knew Robinson agrees with what
you say - his death being suspicious.

(More on Robinson to follow - he found & salvaged the vergulde draeke and the WAMM took all his artifacts with retrospective legislation & later had him murdered while in jail).

The only other authenticated ancient European carving in the Perth
area is from the survivors of the “Vergulde Draeck” of 1656.

There are three other carvings, two given authentication, on the
‘Zuydorp” site. One erased by McCarthy on the orders of Playford,

Alan Robinson_*

But here’s the facts,
Alan was a ‘thorn in the side’ of the Perth ‘establishment.
He probably found the “ Vergulde Draeck” but lost the site. One Easter
he takes a spear fishing group out on his boat, they are in the area
where he found a wreck before. He lends kid his wet suit, and stays on
top working on the boat. The kid sees elephant tusks below – and it’s
the 1656 wreck.

Father was there too, he was a jorno on Perth papers. Considered
himself a wreck searcher. He writes up the BIG find in the old
“Independent”. This plays down Robinson’s role, and ridicules
him. Robinson sues for libel. He wins, and of course a Perth judge only
awards token damages.

The snotty nosed kid, the ‘walrus’ Henderson. His father does what the
establishment wants. Kkid does part-time diving for WAMM , builds that
to a full time job, bribes a WA cabinet minister with coins stolen
from the “ Zuytdorp” and rises to become a DOCTOR and director at
WAMM. Father also rises and rises as a wreck expert.

Time and time again the ‘mob’ try and get Robinson. He fights and
wins, new legislation is enacted, he beats it. These old wrecks have
thousands of worthless clay ballast bricks, worth a fraction of cent.
In the area of the VD they are used as door stops. The whole of
Perth’s legal fraternity gang up, and get him. He does some ‘replica’
work on the old coins, bigger court cases. They get him again.

He goes cranky, as have some other people whom have been roughed up by
WA Museum and the old WAMM.

He goes interstate, he and his defacto, are accused of attempted
murder. They are tried together, same evidence , cross exam, etc etc.
Jury retires, come back.

De Facto Not Guilty.

Judge says, he won’t take the verdict on Robinson, they can give it in the morning.
She goes free, he goes back into custody.

[ in a film approved by WAMM he goes back into a four-man cell. There, all night long he broods on his
fate. He hangs himself. The other four in the cell, like a Sgt Schutlz, hear nothing ! ]

The following comes from the coroner’s report:

He is in custody. He is a court man. They are usually aroused half
hour before other prisoners. He’s awake and told to get ready to be
let out for a shower and breakfast. There’s a line of cells, being
checked etc etc. Half hour later. The cops return to open the cells.
Robinson has hung himself. In that period the cops have continually
walked along the cells, talking to other prisoners. They open his
cell. Stone dead.

Nobody has heard a thing. Not a cop, or prisoners either side and
across from his single cell !

When person a hangs themselves it’s not the ‘hangman’s drop’. It’s a
long slow strangulation. There’s choking, spluttering , heels kicking
and pounding, bowels and bladder are voided, the person tries to stop
the strangling, and tears their throat and neck.

Strange how it was 100% likely he too was about to be acquitted, but turns up dead the following morning before the verdicts ever delivered - so it never was - was he found guilty or innocent?... we will never know......officially!

Robinson’s alleged suicide is one of three, a copper is another. There
are three murders, inc a copper and his mate, three alleged fatal accidents,
six people jailed, others declared "non compos mentos"
(Section 8 of the mental health act i.e. Committed to psychiatric care against their will).

It goes on and on. Unless you’re in the cabal of WA Museum and its old WAMM,
the word is “ don’t get involved in WA wrecks…or you’ll wind up like Robinson”.

They are the “biggest bunch of pirates this side of Asia”
There’s over dozen people whom have suffered in various ways and each can be tracked back to WAMM.

[But Perth is a small place and its generally reckoned that people are only six steps away from each other.]

(Look at http://www.blackdogsbarking.com.au to get an idea about official corruption within West Oz)

But the above goes for even high profile like for former SAS major, Les Hiddins.

He “pulled his head in’ smartly when WAMM said ‘back off’.
So his much vaunted doco on the “VD” survivors going into Central OZ, got watered down.
& became the ‘folk lore’ so desired by WAM WAMM and Uni of WA.

The only people who work with the cops on the “Z” corruption, conspiracies , theft, rackets and whatever else are the WAMM mob. They paid off the local cops when they sabotaged [ torched] their own caravan in 1980.

And faked the alleged theft of the bullion . Playford ‘points the finger’ at them in his book “ Carpet of Silver”. He was actually ‘covering his posterior and fundamental ‘aurafice’. He ‘fingers’ Green, Kimpton & Henderson on different pages …Oh so very neatly [ I gave statutory evidence to the WA Parliamentary Select Committee on Ancient Shipwrecks in 1994 that reported their theft between 1978-79.]

So what they have done is to ‘finger’ someone else to keep the heat off themselves .

It is not illegal to possess coins from the ancient wrecks. All that has to be done was to declare them whenever there was [is] an amnesty and the WAMM part-time divers, and those in the know, merely had to declare them. [ Ref Playford’s book again] Covering their posteriors. WAMM uses Hugh Edwards , their unofficial, official ,mouthpiece, when they want to plant something, or ‘fence’ coins overseas. I have declared coins that I have, and on other occasions gave the coins to Jim Stewart , and also Kimpton when on site. I wrote to Green and asked if I could have them back. But Alas Poor Yorick !

Now those coins in the pic. They very well could be legit coins which the owner doesn’t keep on display in his house. WAMM is notorious for having homes broken into for coin collections. Peter Bridge down at Oats St makes ‘no bones’ that his collection was stolen after he told WAMM about them. This is another of the events that have given WAMM the international name of the ‘ biggest bunch of pirates this side of Asia’. Scott Sledge, who held a high position at WAMM, was called ‘ Slippery” to his face and would just nod and grin. He left and bought a sheep station. Henderson paid $78,000 for prized land, when he lived with his father, in a ‘posh’ area. It was worth $45,000 at the time. A top price. To be a friend, or do a jobs for WAMM , meant a little ‘moonlighting’ could help a registrar’s salary at a senior high school.

Did you see the item a few weeks back that a hoard of Z coins had been found buried in a Geraldton backyard. ?
The story appears again this week, but in, of all 'rags' , the “Western Suburbs.”

I said at the time they could be:

Some of [piggy bank] kept by a WAMM diver when they brought up the Z bullion between 1978=-79. They all kept some. Henderson was IC of them when they got taken down to Perth . He lived with dad in Ardross I think, where homes were worth $45,000. Within a few weeks if being the coins 'curator' he' committed himself to a $78,000 property over looking Blackwall Reach. A Doug Shave ,real estate agent - and Cabinet member to be, owned the property Dad was a senior jorno earned $250 a week and been in Perth 's papers all his life.. This Gld cache could be used by diver as the piggy bank to take one or two coins now and again, and sell them for $1000 each.

Or they could be cast fakes, Alan Robinson did a lot of this, and eventually went off for it.

They could be genuine, and legally owned by the person. They were kept in the backyard for safety purposes. WAMM had a good little racket going, when they knew someone had a good coin collection, there would be a B & E , and the coin collection stolen . Peter Bridges of Hesparian Press makes no bones about the theft of his collection, and says WAMM organised it.

The coins could have been found at Domenic Lamara's place. After WAMM 'torched' their caravan in 1980, in the faked sabotage, and alleged theft of the treasure, He Became their 'de facto 'watch keeper on site. Then came another amnesty and he declared a lot of things. But WAMM had got it all up by July 1979. They all got a pick of coins for the year's work.[ 1978-78] But officially in 1980 , one or two men, in a morning, got in and out of the site to and from the highway, [ 35 miles of bulldozer cut tracks in 1954] Got in and out the water several times. Planted and fired explosives. Collected half tonne or 2 tonnes- it varies, from the sea floor, Lifted it up the 100 ft cliff. loaded onto a 4WD , then used remote sandy tracks without getting bogged, [ even a two-vehicle mission by the Australian SAS Regiment got continually bogged for hours ] and where WAMM and Prince Jah had officially hidden 'pansies' [ Spiked man traps - a criminal offence] to get to the highway. All in a single morning. It took WAMM a whole year of continuous effort to lift at least 2.5 tonnes . The junk silver went to Perth Money Laundry [ the Mint] for smelting, and then just disappears.

Ho Hum

Yes, WAMM in all its wisdom in the story, declares they are "Z" coins.

But cop this , Jenn Rod. is holding a 1711 schellingen in shiny mint condition. Says they found 1400 silver coins. Must have been at least 100,000 of them on board.. the 10 cent coin of the day. Maybe another 50,000 double stuivers, the 5 c . These are the bulk coins smelted down at Perth Mint [Money Laundry] for WAMM & Co. Like the clay ballast bricks, hardly treasure. We picked them up in 1975, along with square P8. Old Tom Pepper used to hand them out as souvenirs . Had sackfuls of them. Yes I'd say it's possible someone didn't know the coins are the 'shrapnel' of the day.

What about the Mexicana,[ round P8] Doubloons etc etc, worth a grand each ?. More WAMM cover up.
But very much doubt if we'll see any legal action reported

Item in the “West Aust” of Tuesday 16 Feb 10, Page 32, about a Bronze Age shipwreck found off Devon , UK . It had many ingots,mainly copper on board, from all over Europe, being taken to the ‘ UK ’ for processing.

Then in WA, coins from the “Zuytdorp” dated 1711 have been discovered in a Geraldton backyard. There’s a photo of a 1711 schellenen, in beaut, shiny,mint condition, as part of the 1400 hoard.

But look at the coins that Green alleges were found by the police.

All in shiny, nice, new, mint condition. Surely worth $1000 each overseas for the best . Did the owner sit down night after night. And in the best army fashion, ‘spit and polish’. Or did he make them ?

My barrister , when at the DPP, prosecuted Alan Robinson, for ‘forging’ ancient coins . Front page news at the time. Are these genuine coins. ?

So we have Spanish, Mexican and Dutch coins. The mis-shapen ones are Dutch Pieces-of-Eight.{P8] The small round coins are Dutch stuivers and schelkingen [ 5 and 10 cent]. The big round ones would be the Spanish and Mexican coins. Ducatons, Doubloons and the like. These are worth dough. WAMM savaged nearly 3 tonne of bullion between May 1978 and July 1979, I have the exact dates. Most of the pilaren [ P8 – P4-P2 ] went into conglomerate. {See “Carpet” again]. This went to the Perth Mint for processing. [Until the Burswood Casino opened it was where Perth’s crooked money was laundered. & Oh Boy, was there are weakness.. and so came the Great Mint Gold Robbery”. [ & yes, WAMM comes into it in the ‘banned’ book
“Mickelberg Stitch”]

Officially some , all , a bit , a lot of the “Z” treasure was ‘stolen’ by persons unknown, claims WAMM. In July 1979 they removed the last, and I wrote to Green congratulating him and his teams of divers. I saw no reason not to. They were the official government department in charge of the wreck. I had written permission to be on site, and filmed their equipment on top of , and below the cliff. Hence my evidence to parliament in 1994. [It is a criminal offence to give false and misleading evidence.] In 1996 Playford gets a massive grant to produce his official book, then gets the Premier’s Award for it, and also gets a cash reward. [ He creates the myth that Tom Pepper found the wreck in the 1920’s] while the people who really found it , the Drages, found themselves in the ‘folk lore’ of WA’s shipwrecks. Created by WAMM and the Uni of WA.

But until Playford wrote in 1996 nobody knew there were allegations the bullion had been stolen. The Super 8mm film I took of the 1979 salvage was stolen in a faked robbery of household effects just before the book came out in 1996. By 2002 I had managed to get a copy of the 16 mm film that was made in 1979, “ Mystery of the Wreck at Tamala” and although WAMM made arrangements with the director, to sabotage the film [ it was so bad when he did the final cut I wanted my name taken off it tho’ kept the copyrights. But he left a few frames on it that convicts WAMM and all involved. In 2006 and 2008 I went back on site and found they had left evidence I in place,turning what was a graveyard for some 200 Dutch [European] people in 1712 into a rubbish dump. I made sure WAMM got a copy of the film and made acknowledgement, and sent copies to the Australian National Maritime Museum, and also State libraries and museums.

Since 1996 every time Green, Henderson,MacCarthy, :Playford & Co make a statement on the Zuytdorp it varies, contradicting themselves and each other over the years .

As I said, Most Odd, and appears to be another of WAMM’s stunts to conceal their conspiracies to pervert the course of justice.

The WAMM Em says there’s so much folk-lore about WA’s wrecks.

WAMM should know, they have created so much themselves. From 1954 to two years ago it’s been ‘gospel’ , via Playford that a Tom Pepper found the “Zuytdorp” in the 1920’s. Both got widely honoured and rewarded. In 1994 I disputed this to Select Committee. A few lines two years ago admitted it was the Drage’s who found the wreck and told Pepper.

The VOC’s standing orders to leaders of missions , skippers, they were to erect markers, stones etc on the Southland where they went ashore. [As Tasman did on Van Dieman’s Land – Tassie] In 1654

Playford found the VOC marker on the “Zuytdorp” site. He was a geologist – with scientific training.
He tore it down.

In 1956 the first clue to the survivors from the “ Vergulde Draeck” wrecked in 1656 was found on what was then a remote Perth beach. This was 18 months after Playford had been feted for his work on the presumed “ Zuytdorp”. A mere dairy farmer had ‘upstaged’ him. An experienced 4WD driver , with geological knowledge and equipment, subsequently smashed the carving up. But even tho a young man had tired of wielding a sledge hammer, and left remnants of two or three letters, that 50 years later yielded forensic clues to the crime. Playford’s two tutors at the UNI of WA had been taken to the site, and said that because dolomite grows skin it was only 10 years old.

In 1975 Playford examined a carving I found on the “Zuytdorp” site. He ordered WAMM’s McCarthy to erase it. He did with small hammer.

Dirk Hartog never left a plate on an island in 1616. This was a fake by Vlamingh in January 1697
to over up his failure to show profit on the expensive exploration. The VOC never ‘bought it” and he died in disgrace.

Playford had now built up a whole myth on the Hartog Plate, and getting massive grants.
& as for the theft of the Zuytdorp’s treasure, I gave statutory evidence to a Select Committee in 1994 that WAMM had stolen it in 1975, [and had shared it among themselves ,friends, cabinet ministers.] Over two tonne of scrap silver went to the Perth Mint for ‘fencing’ in the usual manner.

It was the ‘money laundry’ for Perth’s ‘establishment’, until the Burswood Casino opened.

Folklore – yes but all of WAMM’s and its agents, assigns, contractors.

Anyone who doesn't know how corrupt our maritime research people are - doesn't know the history of this state.

Wreck Hunting here will get you killed - there are too many high profile skeletons in too many closets!

Does any of the above give any clues?

It should be a good warning to anyone contemplating wreck hunting here.

Cheers

 

[SEAHUNTER]

Hello Lucky Eddie
I think you may have posted on the wrong post. The quote did not come from this post and I don't see what it has to do with Marine Exploration finding treasure or Florida Archaeologists.
Seahunter

 

[Lucky Eddie]

Salvor 6 post above refers & I quote.

A good example is Lucky Eddie and his experience with the West Australia Maritime Museum. The directors there sold everything they could get their hands on to supplement their income.

I just added a little more info to what Salvor 6 quoted from previous posts of mine.
The situation here remains ongoing.

Thats the only point I was making. It supports what Salvor 6 is saying - not all Sates maritime protection laws achieve what they should - not when you have corrupt cabals in charge of the state who pilfer everything for themselves.

Its OK to say that 99% of Investors arrangements are fraud and the treasure hunters live off the investors capital rather than search for treasure or pay dividends....

From that one suspects some here prefer the alternative, which is that state bodies like maritime archaeologists & maritime museums should be left with the responsibility for that!

As I've suggested the experience here strongly suggests that power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Just who are the real crooks?

Maritime Archaeologists? Or Treasure Hunters?

Makes one wonder - doesn't it!

Cheers

 

[Panfilo]

Corruption is not limited to anyone country in particular nor to any branch of business or industry Alexandre. Even the Church and renowned arqueologists are tempted and succumb to this crime. Have you been reading the most recent Spanish scandal?

Una trama de corrupción generalizada gestionó entre 2003 y 2009 la restauración del patrimonio histórico-artístico en las iglesias y monasterios de Ourense y Pontevedra. Según el informe de la Unidad de Delitos Económicos y Fiscales del Cuerpo Nacional de Policía, a la cabeza de la red estaba el ex restaurador de la Consellería de Cultura de la Xunta, Garlos Gómez-Gil Aizpurúa, ahora desplazado en el Museo Nacional de Arqueología Subacuática de Cartagena. La juez le imputa los delitos de cohecho y tráfico de influencias. Los mismos que a José Manuel Pichel, arquitecto de la Sociedade de Xestión do Xacobeo, un organismo adscrito a la Consellería de Cultura.The complete article is here:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/Arte/sacro/corrupcion/elpepucul/20100216elpepicul_8/Tes