Looking for so,e input on some updates

[G1sammons]

trying to work out some bugs on this 6" tripple As you can see I'm plugging the punch plate just outside my crash box this is where it feeds the side boxes...iv never had this problem on my 4" .. But it's a flair not a crash box.. I believe the plugging is coming from the downward force as all the flow drop straight down onto the punch plate and my 4" is flowing across the plate! And I think that's why I don't have the problem with it. .. My idea is to move the crash box forward 15 " or so and build a small sluice to reconnect it to the drop section that splits the flow too the side boxes ... That way it will be moving across the punch plate instead of dropping straight down on it .. So what ya think?

 

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[G1sammons]

Dam pictures not workin again

 

[G1sammons]

Attempt number2

 

[russau]

I think i see the problem! someones foot is stuck and causeing the rockjam! sorry for being a smart azz,but i always wanted tobe smart!

 

[Goodyguy]

I think the crash box opening is too wide for the main sluice.
The flair at the crash box opening is acting just like the inside bends of a creek. In other words a low pressure area is being created on either side causing the build up.

Guess I would need to see it in person to be sure.
Is there any way to make it a straight shot down the sluice from the crash box by eliminating the flaired opening and still supply the side sluices?


GG~

 

[Goodyguy]

I think i see the problem! someones foot is stuck and causeing the rockjam! sorry for being a smart azz,but i always wanted tobe smart!

I always wanted to be fast...... turns out I'm only half fast.

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[G1sammons]

When you watch it run the water comes up into the crash box hits the top and rolls to the out too both sides and drops down the out side of the crash box on to the punch plate and most of the flow and gravels starts to flow down the out sides where you see the gravels loaded up in the punch plate ... Not much flow in the center ..
I think that's why it's loads in those areas s.
I see the foot causing problems thou ! Will move it and retest also haveing problem with another jam.. Kinda bites !

 

[Oakview2]

Can you post a video of it running?

 

[G1sammons]

Can you post a video of it running?

sorry oak no vidieos wish I had I'll make some when I get it back together ! I'm having a new circle jet made to replace the standard jet because it's shot and I'm after some more water flow... I figured whil it's down I'd address some of the things it does I don't like and this is one of them . I can't help but think that if it plugging up that punch plate I'm loosing gold and waterfowl to the side boxes ..
In my idea I thought it would flow those gravel a crossed the punch plate rather than dropping straight down on it ... Pretty sure it would work better but figured I'd pounce it off some of you pros befor doing so...

 

[Goodyguy]

Sorry,

I'm just not familiar enough with the way the crash box is supplying the triple sluice design of your dredge to give any proper advice without seeing it either in person or by video.

Wish I could have been more help.
Also would have thought that Hoser John would have had the info you needed.

Here's to your eventual success
GG~

 

[mxer47]

Can you change your jet angle to aim the stream higher or lower into the crash box to see if it creates a more even flow throughout the box instead of just the sides? Just a thought.

 

[G1sammons]

Can you change your jet angle to aim the stream higher or lower into the crash box to see if it creates a more even flow throughout the box instead of just the sides? Just a thought.

welll there no adjustment but it does flex some I'll check it out befor doing the mods . Thanks that's some smart thinking !

 

[G1sammons]

Maybe I'm over reacting, it really would not be such a problem but this punch plate is a sob to get out and clean it ..maybe I should cut these areas out and make some lay over pieces That could be easly removed and cleaned ?
Maybe I could bother Hoosier for a second I know he ran one of these ..
Here's a few more pictures of that piece it fills the entire bottom inside the crash box....

 

[mxer47]

Now that I see the input to the box I can see you probably aren't going to get anywhere with that. My box has a 3" input so the jet can move at the rubber coupler and effect the direction of the flow.

 

[omnicron]

G, you was having a water flow issue right? I remember reading about it but maybe I'm drunk... I'm wondering once you solve the water issue if this problem wont clear up.

 

[Goodyguy]

After much thought and deliberation and with my limited experience on triples, this is the modification I would tentatively recommend..........


I believe that choking down the exit of the crash box enough to eliminate the flairs so that there is a straight shot from the crash box down the sluice would solve not only the water flow issue but the gravel build up as well. Narrowing the exit of the crash box enough to create a straight shot down the main sluice should give more pressure to the out flow from the crash box and would also eliminate the areas that caused the gravel buildup. Not sure what that mod would do to the way the side boxes are supplied, but I believe the re-design may be worth the effort even if the side boxes have to be modified a little to accommodate the change. You be the judge.




GG~

 

[G1sammons]

I believe that choking down the exit of the crash box enough to eliminate the flair so that there is a straight shot from the crash box down the sluice would solve not only the water flow issue but the gravel build up as well. Narrowing the exit of the crash box enough to create a straight shot down the main sluice should give more pressure to the out flow from the crash box. Not sure what that mod would do to the way the side boxes are supplied though, but I believe it may be worth the effort. You be the judge. <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=941972"/> GG~

that's gona be hard I'd have to remake the crash box .it would be easer to put a flair on it I believe..

 

[Goodyguy]

that's gona be hard I'd have to remake the crash box .it would be easier to put a flair on it I believe..

Just pop rivet some 3/16" aluminum onto each side of the opening of the crash box. And then attach a couple pieces on each side to form a straight line from there to the main sluice. I'm a fabricator so it's an easy mod for me.

Either way you would still need a straight shot with a flair just like in the photo above.
Like I said, you be the judge.


GG~

 

[G1sammons]

You would still need a straight shot with a flair just like in the photo above. Like I said, you be the judge.

after thinking about it try to reshape those sides with some, foam it should last long enough for a test run

 

[Goodyguy]

I'm picturing two pieces of aluminum bent into an " L " same height as the sluice attached to the sides of the main sluice with the short ends butted up to the crash box opening.
Easy breezy.

crude drawing but you get the idea. (mods in red)






GG~