Looking for info on my findings SWords Daggers

[PrestonTheBroker]

I was cleaning out a house for an investor friend of mine and we came across all these swords and daggers/bayonets. I am trying to figure out what they are and who makes them. that way i can determine a value for each. Any help would be great. Thank you.

 

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[PrestonTheBroker]

I was cleaning out a house for an investor friend of mine and we came across all these swords and daggers/bayonets. I am trying to figure out what they are and who makes them. that way i can determine a value for each. Any help would be great. Thank you.

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[Retired Sarge]

Some of your haul is bayonets. You'll have to do a separate entry of each one to get a detailed response. Could try some of the edged weapons sites like.

Arms Identification Service - Identify Swords, Knives, Bayonets, Firearms, Guns, Polearms - Weaponry of the World

 

[cw0909]

you can try this site, has a database of info too
Inspector and Acceptance Marks | Swords and Knives | David Atkinson

 

[Kray Gelder]

Not a sword expert here, but, in the blue tub I see mostly late 1800's Mauser style bayonets, probably Crimean War era, various near eastern, eastern Europe issue, authentic military surplus. The other tub, a mix of authentic, and repro/ceremonial type swords. You'll need to ID each one individually. It will require some research.

Welcome, by the way.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Pettibone Bros. Manufacturing of Cincinnati sold all manner of uniforms and accessories, for everyone from postal workers to the military and fraternal organizations. They are known for Masonic swords mostly it seems but sold many other types as well from what I can find. I don't know that they actually made the swords, I would guess they bought them and had their name engraved on. But I'm not sure.

We can ID everything you have there, but you'll need to post pics of each one individually, we'll need pics of the entire thing with a length measurement, and and markings on it. I've got some time waiting on a job to start and i'd be happy to spend some of that time looking up sword and bayonet info

 

[NOLA_Ken]

The sword marked "Locust Grove Institute" is probably going to be pretty rare, and dates to just 4 years before the school was closed for good in 1930. The school only added their military curriculum during WW1 so these swords would have only been made for less than 13 years I would think. It would definitely interest collectors of Southern military schools, and Georgia collectors in particular. I can't can't find another one from that school that has sold, but swords from other military institutes from around the same time frame seem to bring around the $200 range, and I would expect it to go higher than that at auction if there were a couple Georgia collectors that just had to have it

 

[kot63]

Three German Imperial Hunting Cutlass Dagger ?
One Foot Artillery Sword ?

One US Model 1860 Staff and Field Officer's Sword ?
MORE AND BETTER PICTURES !!!!!

 

[Retired Sarge]

Some of the brass handle bayonets look like they could be an Argentinian Model 1879 bayonet.

If so depending on condition and manufacturer they can go for up to $250.00 + or -.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Some of the brass handle bayonets look like they could be an Argentinian Model 1879 bayonet.

If so depending on condition and manufacturer they can go for up to $250.00 + or -.

could also be French 1866 Chassepot bayonets...

We really need more pics of the details

 

[PrestonTheBroker]

Thank you for the info. I will post pictures of every one that i have in this thread. I have been looking them up and it is very hard to find some of the info. Thank you all again.

 

[A2coins]

Wow that's a lot of bayonets hope you get Id that's crazy they would leave those

 

[Bruce R]

I’m seeing a lot of theatrical stuff in there, which, strangely enough, has some value. If you got the batch for nothing then $ 100 apiece would be a good starting point for negotiation of a sale, some are worth more, some less. Someone mentioned the staff and field officers sword, there’s a million of those things out there and 99 % are worthless. Ames Manufacturing supplied swords to the U.S.military, but by 1860 the military was already phasing out swords as general issue, and it should be noted that in their 1882 thru 1889 catalog Ames was still making and selling everything that they had ever produced. So, in 1889 and well beyond, you could still buy an 1860 staff and field officers sword with any kind of trim or engraving you wanted, all for about 20 bucks.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Depending on age, maker and how fancy the blade is that Masonic sword with the eagle pommel could be in the 3-400 dollar range, some of the Model 1832 Artillery short swords can fetch over $1000.....

Its best to know exactly what you have before you start just throwing prices out

 

[Bruce R]

Short foot artillery swords are worth a few bucks , never seen one bring $ 1000 though, and only if they’re marked N.P. Ames and Co. What I see in the photos is a Roman style short sword that was commonly made from surplus M1870 sword bayonets, these were very popular with the degree teams in various lodges. The Freemasons didn’t use eagle pommel swords, that would be K of C, KGE and POSA , BUT in the last photo I think I spy a Knights of Columbus sword with a knights head on the pommel, and I would dearly love to see more photos of that ! That’s one I’d buy myself. Remember, an actual weapon of war will still have a pretty respectable edge on the blade, even after 150 + years.

 

[Bruce R]

. The one in the middle.

 

[uglymailman]

I don't know a thing about them but am courious to see how this turns out. Nice find. Good luck.

 

[Bruce R]

1844 foot artillery sword, rust pitted and blotchy but still sharp enough to take your head clean off with little effort. A genuine weapon of war.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Short foot artillery swords are worth a few bucks , never seen one bring $ 1000 though, and only if they’re marked N.P. Ames and Co. What I see in the photos is a Roman style short sword that was commonly made from surplus M1870 sword bayonets, these were very popular with the degree teams in various lodges. The Freemasons didn’t use eagle pommel swords, that would be K of C, KGE and POSA , BUT in the last photo I think I spy a Knights of Columbus sword with a knights head on the pommel, and I would dearly love to see more photos of that ! That’s one I’d buy myself. Remember, an actual weapon of war will still have a pretty respectable edge on the blade, even after 150 + years.

AMES MODEL 1832 ARTILLERY SHORT SWORD WITH SCABBARD & BELT RIG ? Horse Soldier

 

[Bruce R]

Yes, as I said, N.P.Ames, the only sword blade maker in this country at the time, and the only supplier of swords to the U.S. military as well. here’s the same thing, but this happens to be Patriotic Sons of America, no edge at all.