Looking for an ID on this Saber (sabre?)

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So i am have been trying to ID this saber and thus far haven't had much luck and thought i would toss it to you wolves. The handguard is pretty peculiar in that it is pretty plain. Anyone happen to recognize what type it is? It definitely has a fuller. 39.5" overall length with a blade 33.5" Long. full hilt.webpHandguard.webpblade.webp Thanks Everyone
 

Naval cutlass?
 

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No marks at all. :/ the cutlass idea crossed my mind as the hand guard is pretty plain unlike most military sabers but the blade is pretty narrow for a naval cutlass. I do somewhat wonder if it’s an old commercial sword, like you can buy in Toledo, Spain..... I would expect a makers mark or acceptance mark on a military weapon. They live for marking things.
 

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A couple of other similar sabers... Austrian Model of 1858 Cavalry saber... Austrian Model of 1845....

It seems European to me, but it will take finding a pic that matches to id it with no marks. Being unmarked doesn't rule out military though, a lot of edged weapons could have been needed in a hurry for a war, and sometime they turn up unmarked....As to the grip, it was probably quite nice originally but time just hasn't been kind to it and it's pretty deteriorated.

It could well be a Toledo blade though
 

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Its definitely not a cutlass.A cutlass had a shorter wider blade.Trying to use a long blade sword on a crowded ship in battle didnt work to well.
 

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not a ww1 calvary, the guard is different and the blade is engraved..at least compared to the ww1 calvary sabre that i have . ..
 

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NOLA_Ken, I've got to say publically, your accomplishment of providing the no-doubt-about-it ID of that mystery-saber is most impressive. Outstanding work. :)
 

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NOLA_Ken, I've got to say publically, your accomplishment of providing the no-doubt-about-it ID of that mystery-saber is most impressive. Outstanding work. :)

Thank you, I had a feeling it was going to be European made, but it took a lot of looking to find a match
 

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The next thing to do with this saber is to get it cleaned up and protected from further corrosion... Whatever you do, don't use any kind of abrasive on it, I would give all of the metal a good dose of gun oil and let it soak in a bit before gently wiping it down with a soft sponge. Don't try to do too much at a time, add more oil, clean the sponge or change it out often as needed and wipe it clean with a soft cloth often to see how it's cleaning up. Also don't go too far with the cleaning, if you think you've gone far enough, you probably have. Do the same for the scabbard as well and use a good amount of oil to flush out any loose rust if possible.

If you're not comfortable doing all of that yourself there are people who can do the work professionally

Once cleaned, I would keep it out of the scabbard for display and storage since there will be a good chance that it could rust again. be sure to oil it up and wipe it clean every so often to preserve it
 

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That is so awesome. Thank you folks. I can’t believe you figured it out.
 

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