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I dug this at a precivil war house site several years ago a came across it again while looking for something else. It's nothing great but is different and was wondering if anyone had seen one before. It is lead, 1-13/16" in diameter and about 3/8" thick. There is a small nail hole on one side (almost opposite the dime) and on the back it looks like the disc overlapped something at one time.
 

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vayank54 said:
I dug this at a precivil war house site several years ago a came across it again while looking for something else. It's nothing great but is different and was wondering if anyone had seen one before. It is lead, 1-13/16" in diameter and about 3/8" thick. There is a small nail hole on one side (almost opposite the dime) and on the back it looks like the disc overlapped something at one time.
looks like a pewter cap for a flask
 

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I don't know how it would work on a flask as it is flat and almost 2" in diameter.
 

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Hey V, It looks like a lid to an old lead pig. The bulls-eye pattern was often used to denote poison or danger. It was popular during the Federal period, c. 1820. I'm not saying this disk is this old (or not) just giving a little history on the pattern. Breezie
 

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Vayank, the small serrations on the smaller ring (on what may be the front of this object) suggest both sides were meant to be decorative, pretty much eliminating the possibility of a top to something, a lid, etc.. Could this be an example of a fairly simple pewter pocket mirror with glass missing? http://www.thunderauctioneers.co.za/a-round-mirror.jpg
 

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johnnyi said:
Vayank, the small serrations on the smaller ring (on what may be the front of this object) suggest both sides were meant to be decorative, pretty much eliminating the possibility of a top to something, a lid, etc.. Could this be an example of a fairly simple pewter pocket mirror with glass missing? http://www.thunderauctioneers.co.za/a-round-mirror.jpg

This sounds like the best idea.
 

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Breezie I'm going to show my inorance here. What is a lead pig? I've heard the term but am not sure I ever knew what one was.
Johnnyi & 72 cheyenne. The mirror idea makes sense. There are serrations on the open side. I may have been looking at it backwards thinking that was the back. The nail or maybe screw didn't go all the way through both sides so maybe it held the mirror from slipping out. It's not pewter though it is lead
 

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I think the mirror idea makes sense too, but in pewter or silver. I have seen lead disk used as lids. I think a lead pig is another name for a thick lead container, in the shape of a cylinder. The lids generally just sat on top of the container instead of screwing down. I don't know if 'lead pig' is an official word or not for a cylindrical container, but when I was a child, I heard my Daddy use the term. It could very well be a pocket mirror as Johnny has stated. Either way, I think the 'pattern' is typical of the Federal period. Both Hepplewhite & Sheraton used lots of circles and ovals in their furniture do-dads, whereas their legs were straight and tapered.

Going back to the lead pig, the container or pig could have been to hold some type of poison, thus putting the bullseye lid on it. Think about the old black/white cartoon days, and some Bubba would wander in a bull pen . . .the bull would snort, paw, then his eyes would be pulsating circles, hense bullseyes. In actuality, the bullseye dartboard came from the rings of a tree when cut diagonally, which also made the lines for the first dart boards. I'm rambling, so I'll shut up, but the mirror idea is a good one, but was just throwing out the possibility of it being a lid with the inside ring being where it flat locked on the container. Breezie
 

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