Large site in Central Texas - heat treated - 6 sided artifacts tools

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Hello,
I have been hunting artifacts all my life. For the past 6 yrs, I have been hunting on two different sites and they both have multi-sided (some six worked sides) tools using heat treated flint and chert. There are so many tools and completely worked pieces at these two sites it is hard to find areas where there are just flakes or cores. There is evidence these were not migratory people based on the size of the site and the mass amount of tools found. It has taken a long time for me to realize some things but after so many years and finds, I realized there is more to them than at first sight. Many of the tools were carved to expose a trilobite or other fossils or crystal. These fossil shapes are worked into the shape of an animal. There are 6 sided tools with an animal on each side. Some the same animal but not all. Bird heads with crest, sitting birds, bison, bears, horses, sloths, and a few other species. These images are not heavily carved out of the side of the rock but are finely carved with low profile. Almost without exception, these rocks have a very flat side (sometimes two), that they sit on. Other sides may be somewhat flat, but usually you know when you sit it on the right side. Most animals are carved on all sides, some are standing. They do not vary as far as how they look. They all have the same style basically. Horse heads typically have their mouths open. Bird heads always have an eye on both sides. These two sites are just nothing like anything I have seen in my 45 years of artifact hunting. Some of the tools come out of the ground very greasy. Lots have the remnants of biological matter, some are very shiny (heat treated), all are worked on every side. Lots are based on a six sided slab of about 1" thick. From this slab they carve some animal shape which is determined by the color of the stone, the fossils or crystals inside. The density of this type of worked tools is beyond comprehension. There are very few pieces of naturally chipped flint or chert until you get a long way from the site.

My question is, have any of you come across a site like this where that have this type of tools, heat treating, fossils, and animal figures? I can post pictures but you need to see several with similar content to believe what you are seeing is not an accident. I did not believe it until several years of bringing stuff home to realize the similarities.

I wish I could describe these two sites better. If you have questions, please ask.

Please keep in mind that these are all very well worn pieces and they are worked on all sides. Some are animals by their shape and others have more carving. Many have a trilobite or other fossil as the main point of the carving. In other words, they find the fossil first then finish the tool based on use of the fossil and the shape of the original rock. The site is not a migratory place. There are just too many years and number of artifacts to have been a place to stop by. There are very few flakes or cores on this site which is very unusual. Lower down on the hillside nearer the river, there are some but they appear to be from other causes and not flakes by man. I am sure there are some there somewhere. This site is over a mile long (that is as far as I can go with permission). These items are not right on the rivers edge, but rather up on the hillside and most of the ones pictured are from the top of the hill. I have some that are better examples that came from the side of the hills, but I will have to find them. I have bins full of the artifacts from this site and there are some that are better examples of the carved animals on the sides. More later.
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First you need to post pics of these flint animal carvings. I’ve done lapidary work for a long time and can tell you there are only a couple of ways to carve flint. One is diamond tools and the other way is by abrasion with corundum. I doubt Indians in TX had either.
Corundum or carborundum? .. Just curious. Thanks.
 

Wow you posted this at 2.30 am. Until you post some pictures I’m calling rocks. Collecting for 45 years you should be able to post one artifact I would think. But maybe all are rocks and that’s why no pictures.
 

I really need to see some photos. Otherwise, it just seems to be a story. I like stories, but don’t give them much credence. The only Indians with that technology may have been the Hekawi tribe from F Troop. That’s my story. Sorry if I offended. Not my intention. I just can’t see why people don’t post pictures when telling about spectacular things. I post pictures of old rusty buckles. I’d definitely post pictures if I had the tools you speak of.
 

If so, it’s the most imaginative case on record. 6 sides, with an animal carved on each side… pretty hard to debate
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Hello,
I have been hunting artifacts all my life. For the past 6 yrs, I have been hunting on two different sites and they both have multi-sided (some six worked sides) tools using heat treated flint and chert. There are so many tools and completely worked pieces at these two sites it is hard to find areas where there are just flakes or cores. There is evidence these were not migratory people based on the size of the site and the mass amount of tools found. It has taken a long time for me to realize some things but after so many years and finds, I realized there is more to them than at first sight. Many of the tools were carved to expose a trilobite or other fossils or crystal. These fossil shapes are worked into the shape of an animal. There are 6 sided tools with an animal on each side. Some the same animal but not all. Bird heads with crest, sitting birds, bison, bears, horses, sloths, and a few other species. These images are not heavily carved out of the side of the rock but are finely carved with low profile. Almost without exception, these rocks have a very flat side (sometimes two), that they sit on. Other sides may be somewhat flat, but usually you know when you sit it on the right side. Most animals are carved on all sides, some are standing. They do not vary as far as how they look. They all have the same style basically. Horse heads typically have their mouths open. Bird heads always have an eye on both sides. These two sites are just nothing like anything I have seen in my 45 years of artifact hunting. Some of the tools come out of the ground very greasy. Lots have the remnants of biological matter, some are very shiny (heat treated), all are worked on every side. Lots are based on a six sided slab of about 1" thick. From this slab they carve some animal shape which is determined by the color of the stone, the fossils or crystals inside. The density of this type of worked tools is beyond comprehension. There are very few pieces of naturally chipped flint or chert until you get a long way from the site.

My question is, have any of you come across a site like this where that have this type of tools, heat treating, fossils, and animal figures? I can post pictures but you need to see several with similar content to believe what you are seeing is not an accident. I did not believe it until several years of bringing stuff home to realize the similarities.

I wish I could describe these two sites better. If you have questions, please ask.

Please keep in mind that these are all very well worn pieces and they are worked on all sides. Some are animals by their shape and others have more carving. Many have a trilobite or other fossil as the main point of the carving. In other words, they find the fossil first then finish the tool based on use of the fossil and the shape of the original rock. The site is not a migratory place. There are just too many years and number of artifacts to have been a place to stop by. There are very few flakes or cores on this site which is very unusual. Lower down on the hillside nearer the river, there are some but they appear to be from other causes and not flakes by man. I am sure there are some there somewhere. This site is over a mile long (that is as far as I can go with permission). These items are not right on the rivers edge, but rather up on the hillside and most of the ones pictured are from the top of the hill. I have some that are better examples that came from the side of the hills, but I will have to find them. I have bins full of the artifacts from this site and there are some that are better examples of the carved animals on the sides. More later.
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So, no response? These aren't even the best ones I have just the most recent finds. I have been packing them away because I plan to move soon. I six or seven spoon shaped pieces all the same. There are a lot of birds, buffalo, horses, and camels (i think), and a few that look like elephants (mammoths?), owls, standing bear or sloth?. Also lots of faces usually based on what fossils or other changes there are in the rock. In my opinion, they knew there were trilobites and crystals inside the rock and then they carved enough to expose them, then went on to shape them into an animal shape or the tools needed. You may not be able to see the tool marks in the photos, but there are very few pieces that are not worked completely all over. Every surface, edge, top, bottom and sides. There are no flake tools where they did little tooling. I have one piece (if I can find it I will post it), that looks like a armless sofa. The tooling is very fine and the seat rolls over in the front to form the base. I have found three of these and I have no idea what they could be used for and they are fairly large. I have some where they carved around the trilobite so that it stands up above the surface of the tool which is pretty cool. The rocks used are from the location where they lived and you can walk around and find different areas where the tools are larger (mostly on top of the hill) and medium sized but heavily used in the middle on the way down the hill, then near the river there is hardly any (likely erosion or covered up over the years). The medium sized ones are very polished even right out of the ground. Greasy too. I have found bison bone tools and a leg bone too. Lots of crystals, agate, and leaf shaped fossils. So what say ye....
 

Hello,
I have been hunting artifacts all my life. For the past 6 yrs, I have been hunting on two different sites and they both have multi-sided (some six worked sides) tools using heat treated flint and chert. There are so many tools and completely worked pieces at these two sites it is hard to find areas where there are just flakes or cores. There is evidence these were not migratory people based on the size of the site and the mass amount of tools found. It has taken a long time for me to realize some things but after so many years and finds, I realized there is more to them than at first sight. Many of the tools were carved to expose a trilobite or other fossils or crystal. These fossil shapes are worked into the shape of an animal. There are 6 sided tools with an animal on each side. Some the same animal but not all. Bird heads with crest, sitting birds, bison, bears, horses, sloths, and a few other species. These images are not heavily carved out of the side of the rock but are finely carved with low profile. Almost without exception, these rocks have a very flat side (sometimes two), that they sit on. Other sides may be somewhat flat, but usually you know when you sit it on the right side. Most animals are carved on all sides, some are standing. They do not vary as far as how they look. They all have the same style basically. Horse heads typically have their mouths open. Bird heads always have an eye on both sides. These two sites are just nothing like anything I have seen in my 45 years of artifact hunting. Some of the tools come out of the ground very greasy. Lots have the remnants of biological matter, some are very shiny (heat treated), all are worked on every side. Lots are based on a six sided slab of about 1" thick. From this slab they carve some animal shape which is determined by the color of the stone, the fossils or crystals inside. The density of this type of worked tools is beyond comprehension. There are very few pieces of naturally chipped flint or chert until you get a long way from the site.

My question is, have any of you come across a site like this where that have this type of tools, heat treating, fossils, and animal figures? I can post pictures but you need to see several with similar content to believe what you are seeing is not an accident. I did not believe it until several years of bringing stuff home to realize the similarities.

I wish I could describe these two sites better. If you have questions, please ask.

Please keep in mind that these are all very well worn pieces and they are worked on all sides. Some are animals by their shape and others have more carving. Many have a trilobite or other fossil as the main point of the carving. In other words, they find the fossil first then finish the tool based on use of the fossil and the shape of the original rock. The site is not a migratory place. There are just too many years and number of artifacts to have been a place to stop by. There are very few flakes or cores on this site which is very unusual. Lower down on the hillside nearer the river, there are some but they appear to be from other causes and not flakes by man. I am sure there are some there somewhere. This site is over a mile long (that is as far as I can go with permission). These items are not right on the rivers edge, but rather up on the hillside and most of the ones pictured are from the top of the hill. I have some that are better examples that came from the side of the hills, but I will have to find them. I have bins full of the artifacts from this site and there are some that are better examples of the carved animals on the sides. More later.
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I've been collecting most of my life and I don't see anything except weirdly smashed rocks. No sense of workmanship obvious to me.
 

I have been collecting artifacts for 40 years, every picture you have posted are natural rocks, none are artifacts.
 

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