Large Copper - Very worn - any ideas what it is?

[Boobydoo]

I found this large copper coin in 1999 at an old farm homestead established in the 1830's. I also found a bullet shot 1860's IH penny, a 1859 fatty IH, some barber dimes, nice old coins.

This large copper coin is worn almost completely flat so I know I will never get a positive ID, but based on the size and weight, can any one of the experts out there give me an idea of what kind of coin in may be?

A am almost sure it's a coin because you can make out the rim on the front and back. The side is not reeded.

It's 34 mm diameter / 1.339", 1.96mm thick / 0.077", and weighs 14.56 grams / 0.51 OZ. It's a little smaller than a silver dollar.

You cannot tell by the photo, but I think I can see a slight outline of a bust facing right on the first photo. Also, in the right light, a "7" seems to be present near the botton below the bust.

A lincoln penny is added in the pics for size comparison.

Any help with guesses will be appreciated. Thanks!

BDoo

 

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[jeff of pa]

if it's the size of a Quarter it's a Half Cent.

Closer to half a Large would be by Guess.

Facing right 1700's or early 1800's

Larger then a Half must be Earlier Colonial

 

[Don in SJ]

That size is larger than any regular colonial and Large Cent, the only coppers I have that are 34mm are buttons, so sorry, cannot help you.

Also, the weight is too high for a new Large Cent, yet alone a worn one and too much for any of the colonials I can think of. Not saying it isn't but it is not in the common coin range if it is a colonial. Perhaps a 19th century British coin, which I would not be too familiar with..

Don

 

[Evolution]

That size is larger than any regular colonial and Large Cent, the only coppers I have that are 34mm are buttons, so sorry, cannot help you.

Also, the weight is too high for a new Large Cent, yet alone a worn one and too much for any of the colonials I can think of. Not saying it isn't but it is not in the common coin range if it is a colonial. Perhaps a 19th century British coin, which I would not be too familiar with..

Don

I agree. Liberty caps and Draped busts are both 29mm. All other large cents are smaller. Possibly a larger colonial era token? Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

[l.cutler]

At 34 mm possibly a British penny, but who can say for sure.

 

[leddel]

take a butane or propane torch and heat it up and you'll see the complete image and date of what it is for a few seconds

 

[Don in SJ]

In 1806 and 1807, another 150 tons of copper was coined into pennies at the Soho Mint, although this time the money was a token coinage with each penny only containing 18.9 grams of copper and being 34 millimetres in diameter. These were more conventionally-designed coins, with a right facing bust of the king and ordinary inscription GEORGIUS III D G REX date, and the obverse showing the seated Britannia facing left, with olive branch and trident and the inscription BRITANNIA

I believe with wear that the 18.9 grams most likely would be around the weight you measured, so what I thought it could be, appears to be a good possibility.

A 19th Century British Penny.

Don

 

[Boobydoo]

Thanks Don and all of you for the good research and ideas.
Sounds logical that it would be and early 1800's British penny.
Maybe I'll try the flame idea on one side...can't degrade the value any more then it is already

Again, thanks!!

 

[whispers]

Thanks Don and all of you for the good research and ideas.
Sounds logical that it would be and early 1800's British penny.
Maybe I'll try the flame idea on one side...can't degrade the value any more then it is alrea