Lake Eucha find.

[RCarson]

My first ever find. I have been told a tomahawk and found a picture online that called it a battle ax. Same thing? Any idea who made it and how long ago? Thank you fir any info that you can give me. I wish that I could be of some help here instead of always asking for it. Maybe before long I'll know something about these rocks.

 

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[bsit1361]

Could be a hoe for planting or chopper or a flint ax. Nice find.

 

[Tnmountains]

I like what bsit said. Congratulations on a great first find.Nice artifact.
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TnMtns

 

[rock]

Looks to of been in a creek for quite a while. Try cleaning it with warm water and dish soap. Maybe soak it for a day then use a tooth brush on it and then clean tap water. Then post it back up so I can see it in the pretty state. Size is a great thing for an ID on it. Most hoes I have found are no smaller that 6 inches in length. Nice find!

 

[RCarson]

Thanks guys. Is there any way to tell what tribe made it? I'm guessing Cherokee just bc there is a Cherokee reservation close by but I really have no idea if that matters

 

[rock]

No not till we decide what it is. Hoe, can be Woodland period. Celt, Ax goes every where. I dont really know and hard to say for me. I just dont find enough of them. I have only found 1 Adze and 3 Celts/ Hoes so far.

 

[Tnmountains]

Thanks guys. Is there any way to tell what tribe made it? I'm guessing Cherokee just bc there is a Cherokee reservation close by but I really have no idea if that matters

The Cherokee in the scheme of things were really not that old in this area (south east). They were late comers so to speak and we kinda named them as well. But they ended up being the brightest. If it is from a reservation out west then I doubt it is Cherokee as by the time they were relocated they had lost almost all ancient skills in stone working. If it from out west I would ask Matt(Neaderthal). Hope this helps.
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TnMtns

 

[RCarson]

It is from a little lake in Northeast Oklahoma that is real close to Kenwood reservation. According to what I have found that is a Cherokee reservation.

 

[RCarson]

I found it just in the edge of the lake but the water is so low that it normally would have been 5-6+' deep. I will clean it up and measure it and repost the new pictures of it. Thanks guys.

 

[Tnmountains]

It is from a little lake in Northeast Oklahoma that is real close to Kenwood reservation. According to what I have found that is a Cherokee reservation.

The Cherokee were relocated to Oklahoma on "The Trail Of Tears" around 1838. They were not indigenous to that area.

 

[RCarson]

So when they were relocated did they stop making tools and points,etc.? Thank you for your help.

 

[Tnmountains]

So when they were relocated did they stop making tools and points,etc.? Thank you for your help.

Basically yes. Once they had contact with the spaniards and the english they went after modern technology. The Cherokee were not allowed to practice old beliefs and ways and the young ones were put into schools and fed religion. In a generation almost they lost the technology From the stone age to black powder now counting the copper culture they were experiencing on their own.. It was sad.If Sequoia had not invented the syllabus their language may have been lost as well. It was not really that long ago that the "educated" learned exactly how lithic reduction was done. A lot of early theories were the stone was heated and water was dropped on it making a flake pop off.They knew that some materials were heated but did not understand why. Not until they actually started seeing the knapping kits in burials did all the puzzle pieces come back together. But to be sure it was a master skill that every generation had before contact. Hopefully some other members will add to and correct me on what I have missed.