KKK knife

[Yard Digger]

I dug this knife yesterday while metal detecting the yard of a vacant mobile home. It is one of many rental properties my friend owns.
Now first off, I don't mean to and certainly hope I don't offend anyone with this post and I will understand if the moderators decide to not allow it. Secondly, I am in no way affiliated with the KKK and neither do I share in their beliefs. I only mean to show off my findings just as I would show a Bowie knife if I ever found one.

And now here it is along with a few other items and pennies:


On one side of the blade is stamped surgical Japan and the opposite side is Taylor Cutlery.
HH, Roger

 

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[nathan104]

The crazy stuff you can find.

 

[dig kzoo]

Interesting find, do you know the history of the property?
I suspect it must fairly old as I would suspect modern companies wouldn't make such an item.

 

[Yard Digger]

Yep Nathan, unfortunately these United States have some very dark corners.

 

[Yard Digger]

Don't really know much about that piece of land, but the little town and it's surrounding lands was first settled before the Civil War. And I haven't thought about it but you might be right about modern companies not making them. I found a Taylor Cutlery on the net that had been in business since 1975 in Tennessee.

 

[dig kzoo]

With the blade type I would think that time frame would be about right.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

It's not that old. I've seen a few of those at flea markets all over the place.

 

[Yard Digger]

It's not that old. I've seen a few of those at flea markets all over the place.

With the blade type I would think that time frame would be about right

Thanks for your feedback.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I dug this knife yesterday while metal detecting the yard of a vacant mobile home. It is one of many rental properties my friend owns.
Now first off, I don't mean to and certainly hope I don't offend anyone with this post and I will understand if the moderators decide to not allow it. Secondly, I am in no way affiliated with the KKK and neither do I share in their beliefs. I only mean to show off my findings just as I would show a Bowie knife if I ever found one.

And now here it is along with a few other items and pennies:
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On one side of the blade is stamped surgical Japan and the opposite side is Taylor Cutlery.
HH, Roger

I see nothing wrong with posting the knife, it is simply an artifact like the German WWII artifacts. Now if some one were to start praising the KKK for their racist views because of the knife picture their posts would be removed and a timeout would most like be issued........

 

[Yard Digger]

I see nothing wrong with posting the knife, it is simply an artifact like the German WWII artifacts. Now if some one were to start praising the KKK for their racist views because of the knife picture their posts would be removed and a timeout would most like be issued........

Thanks for your views Treasure Hunter.

 

[wheatfinder13]

That's a weird find

 

[HutSiteDigger]

History is history ! and if you like it or not the KKK is got historical rights... old school KKK that is - not like new school KKK you see on Jerry Springer ; )

If anyone reads this post from now till (who knows even 100+ years from now) please note I do not support the KKK but they do have historical rights and people actually do collect vintage KKK artifacts and like Ken was pointing out sometimes (more down south) you see KKK artifacts in flea-markets.. Not my cup of tea tho.

 

[Yard Digger]

History is history ! and if you like it or not the KKK is got historical rights... old school KKK that is - not like new school KKK you see on Jerry Springer ; )

If anyone reads this post from now till (who knows even 100+ years from now) please note I do not support the KKK but they do have historical rights and people actually do collect vintage KKK artifacts and like Ken was pointing out sometimes (more down south) you see KKK artifacts in flea-markets.. Not my cup of tea tho.

I haven't been around to too many flea markets, but I guess it would make a good flea market item. I sure wouldn't be interested in buying one. To find one to keep as a conversation piece, yeah... And to sell one for its historical value? Yeah, but I'd have to be certain that the buyer is only interested in the historic value and not otherwise.
Thanks for looking HutSiteDigger and for your honest opinion. HH

 

[myfantasia1]

I think the KKK are a bunch of Dumb asses. But that is a cool find. History is not always good. congrats

 

[Gridwalker306]

The KKK had 4-5 million members in the mid 1920's, so memorabilia is bound to be found. I think it's a cool find, historically speaking. In very nice condition it would be worth 15-25 dollars.

Upon researching this, I read that there are only 5000 - 8000 Klan members active today. Things are moving in the right direction, and it'll be nice once that number is zero!

 

[jeff of pa]

I don't mean to and certainly hope I don't offend anyone with this post and I will understand if the moderators decide to not allow it.

with the exception of explicit pornography, or it's devices, Posted
for attention,
I can't imagine any relic we dig woud be too offensive.
It's all history

this one on the left is a Fantasy Piece, c1980 ?

Not yours



? KKK /Klan Pocketknife Taylor Cutlery SET ?

 

[jeff of pa]

here ya go , Listed as a Novelty here, could have been sold by the Klan.
They were known to sell novelties like key chains,
buiseness cards, tokens, Bumper stickers, etc.
although I can't imagine anyone having the guts to use the bumber sticker
on a new vehicle .

c.1950's Novelty Knife imported by Taylor Cutlery, Japan, surgical steel, 3 1/4 In.

by condition, I'd say yours was lost recently.
but Cool find in my opinion

241: Ku Klux Klan Folding Knife : Lot 241

 

[Plumbata]

Anyone think it's hilarious that an ostensibly KKK related item was made in Japan!? It has gotta be a novelty item intended for the uneducated public. Any exclusionary white supremacist worth their salt wouldn't be caught dead with something like that made outside the USA. Granted, most of the potential customer base for the junk would be stupid bumpkins and teenagers so I wouldn't be surprised if the irony went well over their heads.

I do find it somewhat alarming that the mere discussion of such an item drives people to express abundant caveats and wholesale denunciations, justified as they are. The Anti-Defamation League and general liberal bias in all aspects of media nowadays makes the emotionally reflexive revulsion to even the most insignificant artifacts from the Nazis or KKK and the like interfere with objective inquiry and the understanding of the very real and ongoing influences wrought upon the historical matrix of this nation and the world by such groups.

Nowadays people are taught that they are evil "hate groups" populated by "extremists" and that's about it. In schools and universities, the whitewashed and overly simplified liberal perspective of the textbook publishers and curricula has become so mainstream that the bias is accepted as unalterable fact by the majority of those indoctrinated. As distasteful as such groups may be to our sensibilities, we should be able to exercise the intellectual fortitude necessary to overcome the socially-inoculated squeamishness and investigate the complex historical reality behind it all, from their perspective as well as all other perspectives at play in the past as well as in the present. Although much of it is mainstream and socially acceptable, I see such an abundance of close-minded ignorance and unthinking adherence to biased sociopolitical and historical dogma that it makes me sick. There is an ocean of hypocrisy and idiocy on both sides of the fence; not just on "the other side".

 

[jeff of pa]

Anyone think it's hilarious that an ostensibly KKK related item was made in Japan!? It has gotta be a novelty item intended for the uneducated public. Any exclusionary white supremacist worth their salt wouldn't be caught dead with something like that made outside the USA. Granted, most of the potential customer base for the junk would be stupid bumpkins and teenagers so I wouldn't be surprised if the irony went well over their heads.

I do find it somewhat alarming that the mere discussion of such an item drives people to express abundant caveats and wholesale denunciations, justified as they are. The Anti-Defamation League and general liberal bias in all aspects of media nowadays makes the emotionally reflexive revulsion to even the most insignificant artifacts from the Nazis or KKK and the like interfere with objective inquiry and the understanding of the very real and ongoing influences wrought upon the historical matrix of this nation and the world by such groups.

Nowadays people are taught that they are evil "hate groups" populated by "extremists" and that's about it. In schools and universities, the whitewashed and overly simplified liberal perspective of the textbook publishers and curricula has become so mainstream that the bias is accepted as unalterable fact by the majority of those indoctrinated. As distasteful as such groups may be to our sensibilities, we should be able to exercise the intellectual fortitude necessary to overcome the socially-inoculated squeamishness and investigate the complex historical reality behind it all, from their perspective as well as all other perspectives at play in the past as well as in the present. Although much of it is mainstream and socially acceptable, I see such an abundance of close-minded ignorance and unthinking adherence to biased sociopolitical and historical dogma that it makes me sick. There is an ocean of hypocrisy and idiocy on both sides of the fence; not just on "the other side".

LOL I still think it was sold by the Klan, in the 50's.
But your Right,
for as "American" as they claim to be,
having items made in japan for sale is a bit
hypocritical , but I imagine it came down to American made at $25.00 a piece
for 500 (and find a U.S. company not afraid
of being Black-balled, if word got out)
or Japan made for 75 cents a piece for a thousand
Japan wins higher profit potential.
White is hard to keep clean,
and dry cleaning bills can be steep.

 

[CRUSADER]

Anyone think it's hilarious that an ostensibly KKK related item was made in Japan!? It has gotta be a novelty item intended for the uneducated public. Any exclusionary white supremacist worth their salt wouldn't be caught dead with something like that made outside the USA. Granted, most of the potential customer base for the junk would be stupid bumpkins and teenagers so I wouldn't be surprised if the irony went well over their heads.

I do find it somewhat alarming that the mere discussion of such an item drives people to express abundant caveats and wholesale denunciations, justified as they are. The Anti-Defamation League and general liberal bias in all aspects of media nowadays makes the emotionally reflexive revulsion to even the most insignificant artifacts from the Nazis or KKK and the like interfere with objective inquiry and the understanding of the very real and ongoing influences wrought upon the historical matrix of this nation and the world by such groups.

Nowadays people are taught that they are evil "hate groups" populated by "extremists" and that's about it. In schools and universities, the whitewashed and overly simplified liberal perspective of the textbook publishers and curricula has become so mainstream that the bias is accepted as unalterable fact by the majority of those indoctrinated. As distasteful as such groups may be to our sensibilities, we should be able to exercise the intellectual fortitude necessary to overcome the socially-inoculated squeamishness and investigate the complex historical reality behind it all, from their perspective as well as all other perspectives at play in the past as well as in the present. Although much of it is mainstream and socially acceptable, I see such an abundance of close-minded ignorance and unthinking adherence to biased sociopolitical and historical dogma that it makes me sick. There is an ocean of hypocrisy and idiocy on both sides of the fence; not just on "the other side".

Wow. Well put. You make my research look shallow, although trying to cover 4000 years of artifacts dictates I'm a 'Jack' not a 'Master'. I studied social History at school but it never really caught my imagination.

Anywhy I probably agree with most on here that as a collective of history hunters we should hid nothing & like your pointing towards history is written by the winners. KKK lost but should not be ignored.