King George III Halfpenny No Britannia on Reverse

Eastender

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Lately I have been detecting narrow land corridors between wetlands in my town's first area of European settlement. I'm trying to locate isolated coin drops in likely traffic areas away from cellar pits. Frustrating slim pickings but exciting when I do score. Usually when I find British Colonial it's well-worn KGII halfpence. (Recently I was fortunate to find a nice Machin's Mills coin). I also find Draped Bust and Coronet Head large cents. This one is in poor shape and I haven't tried to clean it yet. Wondering what issue has a circular ribbon and flower motif on the reverse. I can see some letters.

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Not an exact match but I'm wondering if from that family. Doesn't look like copper, maybe a bath metal, and those coins do have the circular pattern.
 

Yes, I think I can make out "UTILE DULCI" on the reverse and I think I am mistaking REI with III. If so, 1722-24 makes it my oldest coin from this area.
 

Rose Americana. Nice find. (Jealous.)
 

Nice one, what's it's made of? Congrats
 

Great Strategy on the peninsulas amongst the salt marshes

Ok going to make wild guess as I am not sure of size
definitely very similar to a rosa, on the obverse the George profile has William woods hand , all over it, very different than the regal issues
I Vote, Martin 3C 1722 2 PENCE, As the Petal fold over in the other Tudor rose is broad compared to Martin 2b and the date is on the rose side
Also the placement of the kings name is in same position as 3C
https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/...5-ngc-martin-4-c-w-1330-high-r6/a/1145-3035.s
 

Size: 1.05" or 27mm, weight: 7.06 grams
 

Yes, that example posted does look like the match. Now I can spot the 1722.
 

Great find! I often spend time hunting open woods and along wooded streams in areas where there are no nearby cellar holes. I sometimes get lucky with random drops. How do you plan to clean it?
 

composition +
75% brass
20% zinc - reason why they corrode like a new penny
5% silver
 

It's a Rosa Americana penny for sure. The Rosa denominations were made much smaller than their British denomination counterpart.
 

That cleaned up nicely. Don't know how to clean it though.
 

Nice find Eastender. As far as cleaning them......that is a tough one. I have dug 4. The first I gave it the standard peroxide soak, the other three just a "dry" cleaning. I prefer the "dry" look. I know a guy that had a half dozen or so and he would clean them in his electrolysis unit. They cleaned up quite a bit and you got more detail, but it wasn't a look that I liked.
 

a real good and rare find, take your time with cleaning, try and keep moist from the ground if not too late, start dry, removing dirty gently from non detailed flat areas, leaving raised detail alone, if the patina is soft that means the raised areas (detail) may be soft also and may come off, if it is solid you can go the peroxide route. but I have watch coin ruen from great detail to blank disks when they dry out or in peroxide bath, depending how much of the original raised detail retains its solid metal status rater than converted into soft patina coating
 

Love the old copper!:occasion14:
 

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