Just a buckle or colonial buckle ?

[Mike in Berks]

I need some help from the buckle experts. I had this in a group of buckles i dug
The ones that didn't make the displays. With all the buckles being posting in "Best
Finds" this one has me curious now ? ?

 

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[shaun7]

Shoe buckle!

 

[Mike in Berks]

Shoe buckle!

Thanks shaun7 modern or colonial shoe buckle ? ?

 

[traderoftreasures]

looks like one of these knee buckles

 

[Mike in Berks]

looks like one of these knee buckles

Thanks for the reply and photos traderoftreasures
It does look like the lower middle one. Sure would put a big smile on my face if it was
from that era.

 

[vayank54]

looks like one of these knee buckles

Agree it looks like a colonial knee buckle

 

[Mike in Berks]

looks like one of these knee buckles

Agree it looks like a colonial knee buckle

Thanks for the help vayank54 sounds good to me

 

[Silver Searcher]

It's a two piece retangular shoe Buckle, the chape and the pin are missing ...1720s-1790s

SS

 

[Mike in Berks]

It's a two piece retangular shoe Buckle, the chape and the pin are missing ...1720s-1790s

SS

Thanks for your reply and photo SS
You and shaun7 say shoe buckle. traderoftreasures and vayank54 say knee buckle.
hmmm, thats 2 for 2
Either way .... i'm satisfied in knowing it is in fact a colonial buckle

I really appreciate everyones help on this !! I'm gonna check mark it now - solved

 

[vayank54]

I could have been wrong as I don't know the colonial stuff as well as some others. I thought it was knee buckle as I thought it a bit small to be a shoe buckle.

 

[Mike in Berks]

I could have been wrong as I don't know the colonial stuff as well as some others. I thought it was knee buckle as I thought it a bit small to be a shoe buckle.

Right or Wrong ? .... I know you try to help many people here vayank54
I know i learn something every day here like today I did a google images on
colonial " knee" buckles and a few photos looked very similar, but i'm satisfied that
"my question was answered" by the replies i recieved .......... including yours
All i know now is i got me a colonial buckle and i got a smile on my face today : ))

And i thank you and everyone else for helping me out Mike

 

[Silver Searcher]

I could have been wrong as I don't know the colonial stuff as well as some others. I thought it was knee buckle as I thought it a bit small to be a shoe buckle.

Shoe, or Knee Buckle....I think both really just the same can't see any difference so your ID correct also

SS

 

[Don in SJ]

Shoe buckle/knee buckle, either way a nice find. With the shape I thought shoe buckle, but with the dimensions you have given, that is closer to knee type, however, maybe Cru knows, I wonder if the women or children had buckled shoes and if so, perhaps they were of this smaller size?


Don

 

[Silver Searcher]

Shoe buckle/knee buckle, either way a nice find. With the shape I thought shoe buckle, but with the dimensions you have given, that is closer to knee type, however, maybe Cru knows, I wonder if the women or children had buckled shoes and if so, perhaps they were of this smaller size?


Don

SS

 

[Mike in Berks]

Shoe buckle/knee buckle, either way a nice find. With the shape I thought shoe buckle, but with the dimensions you have given, that is closer to knee type, however, maybe Cru knows, I wonder if the women or children had buckled shoes and if so, perhaps they were of this smaller size?


Don

Thanks Don
Shoe or Knee buckle either way i like it
Only problem is i always record where and when i find things. If the buckles were plain
and did'nt have a design sometimes i just wrote 1 - buckle. In 13 yrs. i have 16 buckles
i can't put a date or location to ..... this being one of them
As far as women and children, i did some searching and found some people making
reproduction colonial shoes for women. Some had large and small buckles. I didn't see
any information on children. You sparked my curiousity though, i always pictured the
colonial men wearing them. I never gave a thought to what the women and children
wore.

good luck diggin Mike

 

[Don in SJ]

Mike, I would assume that the women did, perhaps the younguns, sure would be nice information to know. One thing we never give a thought to I guess, and probably should!

I was lucky to find 4 whole frames in 2009 to add to my collection of them. Two Shoe buckles, one complete and two knee buckles, one complete. The size does match yours but it is just the squareish appearance of yours that suggest shoe in lieu of knee, but by size it is almost the same as my two knee buckles.

Ah, lightbulb goes off. I believe if you look at my 4 examples, the two shoe buckles have the pin slots for the shaft running across the width of the buckles, whereas on the knee buckles they run the length, so your buckles pin holes would have it running the length, thus most likely it is a knee buckle. (Ah, logical reasoning LOL)

 

[Mike in Berks]

Mike, I would assume that the women did, perhaps the younguns, sure would be nice information to know. One thing we never give a thought to I guess, and probably should!

I was lucky to find 4 whole frames in 2009 to add to my collection of them. Two Shoe buckles, one complete and two knee buckles, one complete. The size does match yours but it is just the squareish appearance of yours that suggest shoe in lieu of knee, but by size it is almost the same as my two knee buckles.

Ah, lightbulb goes off. I believe if you look at my 4 examples, the two shoe buckles have the pin slots for the shaft running across the width of the buckles, whereas on the knee buckles they run the length, so your buckles pin holes would have it running the length, thus most likely it is a knee buckle. (Ah, logical reasoning LOL)

Congrats Don !! you have 4 nice examples there
I agree with you saying the pin in knee buckles run the length, thus most likely a knee buckle.

I'm just glad it was ID'd as a colonial buckle and thanks to everyone that helped me

 

[Silver Searcher]

Mike, I would assume that the women did, perhaps the younguns, sure would be nice information to know. One thing we never give a thought to I guess, and probably should!

I was lucky to find 4 whole frames in 2009 to add to my collection of them. Two Shoe buckles, one complete and two knee buckles, one complete. The size does match yours but it is just the squareish appearance of yours that suggest shoe in lieu of knee, but by size it is almost the same as my two knee buckles.

Ah, lightbulb goes off. I believe if you look at my 4 examples, the two shoe buckles have the pin slots for the shaft running across the width of the buckles, whereas on the knee buckles they run the length, so your buckles pin holes would have it running the length, thus most likely it is a knee buckle. (Ah, logical reasoning LOL)

Congrats Don !! you have 4 nice examples there
I agree with you saying the pin in knee buckles run the length, thus most likely a knee buckle.

I'm just glad it was ID'd as a colonial buckle and thanks to everyone that helped me

Seeing as the shaft does indeed run the lenghth of the Buckle, I would agree that it's more likely a Knee Buckle, but this type of Buckle was also used as stock or Hat Buckles

SS

 

[Mike in Berks]

Mike, I would assume that the women did, perhaps the younguns, sure would be nice information to know. One thing we never give a thought to I guess, and probably should!

I was lucky to find 4 whole frames in 2009 to add to my collection of them. Two Shoe buckles, one complete and two knee buckles, one complete. The size does match yours but it is just the squareish appearance of yours that suggest shoe in lieu of knee, but by size it is almost the same as my two knee buckles.

Ah, lightbulb goes off. I believe if you look at my 4 examples, the two shoe buckles have the pin slots for the shaft running across the width of the buckles, whereas on the knee buckles they run the length, so your buckles pin holes would have it running the length, thus most likely it is a knee buckle. (Ah, logical reasoning LOL)

Congrats Don !! you have 4 nice examples there
I agree with you saying the pin in knee buckles run the length, thus most likely a knee buckle.

I'm just glad it was ID'd as a colonial buckle and thanks to everyone that helped me

Seeing as the shaft does indeed run the lenghth of the Buckle, I would agree that it's more likely a Knee Buckle, but this type of Buckle was also used as stock or Hat Buckles

SS

SS
I sure have learned a lot by posting the buckle Used on shoes, knees, and hats.
I came across 2 images of a women and a child in colonial times. Which tells me colonial buckles
were used by men, women, and children. If only the relics we dig up could talk



Thanks Again Mike

 

[Silver Searcher]

Mike, I would assume that the women did, perhaps the younguns, sure would be nice information to know. One thing we never give a thought to I guess, and probably should!

I was lucky to find 4 whole frames in 2009 to add to my collection of them. Two Shoe buckles, one complete and two knee buckles, one complete. The size does match yours but it is just the squareish appearance of yours that suggest shoe in lieu of knee, but by size it is almost the same as my two knee buckles.

Ah, lightbulb goes off. I believe if you look at my 4 examples, the two shoe buckles have the pin slots for the shaft running across the width of the buckles, whereas on the knee buckles they run the length, so your buckles pin holes would have it running the length, thus most likely it is a knee buckle. (Ah, logical reasoning LOL)

Congrats Don !! you have 4 nice examples there
I agree with you saying the pin in knee buckles run the length, thus most likely a knee buckle.

I'm just glad it was ID'd as a colonial buckle and thanks to everyone that helped me

Seeing as the shaft does indeed run the lenghth of the Buckle, I would agree that it's more likely a Knee Buckle, but this type of Buckle was also used as stock or Hat Buckles

SS

SS
I sure have learned a lot by posting the buckle Used on shoes, knees, and hats.
I came across 2 images of a women and a child in colonial times. Which tells me colonial buckles
were used by men, women, and children. If only the relics we dig up could talk





Thanks Again Mike

And scarfs(stock Buckle)

SS