It's a Mystery

[cambria09]

Hello All. Found this tonite at a small town home site going back to the 1900's or so.

Can't see anything re John Moje or Fred Hagens...very strange find, let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks for the view and Good Luck out there. C9

 

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[invent4hir]

Moje is an uncommon name. Looking in FamilySearch for John Moje, there are only 21 records, which I think these are for 3 or 4 men. Here is the link - https://www.familysearch.org/search...rname=Moje&surname_exact=on&count=50&offset=0 - but you may have to register for a free account to look at the details. There are 40 records for Fred Hagens at https://www.familysearch.org/search...ame=Hagens&surname_exact=on&count=50&offset=0. Both names have German and New Jersey connections.

 

[creskol]

To me, it looks like fairly modern font lettering, and the size and shape looks like the weights used to balance the blades on a ceiling fan. I wonder if John was playing with Freddie?

 

[Billieg]

Postal card: Meyers Hotel, John Moje, Proprietor, Hudson and Third Sts., Hoboken, N.J. N.d., ca. 1920-1925.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Based on the style of the font and the clipped corners of the tag, I'm thinking it dates to the 1920s - 30s.

Hope you get an answer to this mystery,
Dave

 

[cambria09]

Postal card: Meyers Hotel, John Moje, Proprietor, Hudson and Third Sts., Hoboken, N.J. N.d., ca. 1920-1925.

Hello Billieg. Wow nice research, I think this is the John Moje in question. He was active in NY and NJ German societies and managed something called Schuetzen Park, also was member of the Schuetzen Corps which was some kind of gun club...still in existence.

Still not sure what the piece is for but I found it directly across the street from the old small town post office.

Not sure how you found this reference but thanks for the info and Good Luck out there. C9

 

[invent4hir]

According to 2 ads appearing on pages 1090 and 1091 in the 1925-26 Hoboken City Directory shown below and viewed at http://www.digifind-it.com/hoboken/data/city-directories/1925-1926 part 2 Part_0004.pdf, Fred Hagens was the Proprietor of the Grand Hotel located at the same intersection as Meyer’s Hotel.

While the post card mentioned above shows John Moje as the Proprietor of Meyer’s Hotel circa the early 1920s, by the time the 1925-26 city directory was printed, Henry Braun was listed as the Proprietor. According to the 1930 U.S. Census found on FamilySearch shown below and seen at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/6...c=1810731&personaUrl=/ark:/61903/1:1:X4PV-WPX, John Moje is listed as an Assistant Manager for a hotel — but his residence was Queens (NYC). It is important to point out that I assume this John to be John Jr. who was born in New Jersey in 1890. His father John was born in Germany in about 1856-57. While it is unclear if John Jr. and Fred were employer/employee/friends/neighbors, the hotels they worked at were competitors at one time. According to an article in the Hudson Dispatch dated January 8, 1936, the Meyer’s Hotel was in bankruptcy. To view the article - https://hoboken.pastperfectonline.com/archive/7375B2C9-30F6-4369-8347-327288367260.

The tag found looks like it was originally made for John. The 100 may represent his room number if he lived on a hotel premises. The presence of cut corners and absence of screw holes suggests this tag slid into a holder. Perhaps on the room door or mail box. Fred Hagens might have obtained the tag after John Jr. moved to Queens. Lots of speculation!

Interesting how such a small artifact can be so thought provoking.

 

[invent4hir]

The Hoboken Historical Museum may know what it is.

 

[Bramblefind]

fyi Moje sold the Schuetzenpark proprietorship to Hagens in 1908. This is from the Jersey Journal 4/9/1908.

 

[DCMatt]

BTW- Schuetzen is a traditional Bavarian/German type of marksmanship competition. It also is/was a social gathering. You know, drink beer and shoot guns...

We ID'd a schuetzen target in this forum back in the spring.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/603965-what.html

 

[DCMatt]

fyi Moje sold the Schuetzenpark proprietorship to Hagens in 1908. This is from the Jersey Journal 4/9/1908.

So it could be a Schuetzenpark token.

 

[cambria09]

According to 2 ads appearing on pages 1090 and 1091 in the 1925-26 Hoboken City Directory shown below and viewed at http://www.digifind-it.com/hoboken/data/city-directories/1925-1926 part 2 Part_0004.pdf, Fred Hagens was the Proprietor of the Grand Hotel located at the same intersection as Meyer’s Hotel.

While the post card mentioned above shows John Moje as the Proprietor of Meyer’s Hotel circa the early 1920s, by the time the 1925-26 city directory was printed, Henry Braun was listed as the Proprietor. According to the 1930 U.S. Census found on FamilySearch shown below and seen at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/6...c=1810731&personaUrl=/ark:/61903/1:1:X4PV-WPX, John Moje is listed as an Assistant Manager for a hotel — but his residence was Queens (NYC). It is important to point out that I assume this John to be John Jr. who was born in New Jersey in 1890. His father John was born in Germany in about 1856-57. While it is unclear if John Jr. and Fred were employer/employee/friends/neighbors, the hotels they worked at were competitors at one time. According to an article in the Hudson Dispatch dated January 8, 1936, the Meyer’s Hotel was in bankruptcy. To view the article - https://hoboken.pastperfectonline.com/archive/7375B2C9-30F6-4369-8347-327288367260.

The tag found looks like it was originally made for John. The 100 may represent his room number if he lived on a hotel premises. The presence of cut corners and absence of screw holes suggests this tag slid into a holder. Perhaps on the room door or mail box. Fred Hagens might have obtained the tag after John Jr. moved to Queens. Lots of speculation!

Interesting how such a small artifact can be so thought provoking.

Hello invent4hir. Excellent research you dug up. I like your theory of it being a slide-in name plate like on a door or postal box.

Yes this piece invites conjecture...much is now known but there is more to learn...like how did it end up in a small Central FL town lot?

Thanks for the great reply and Good Luck out there. C9

 

[cambria09]

fyi Moje sold the Schuetzenpark proprietorship to Hagens in 1908. This is from the Jersey Journal 4/9/1908.

Hello Bramblefind. Very interesting article you found there.

This guy Moje violated liquor laws and "kept a disorderly house"...sounds like a fun guy especially since no one showed up for his trial except the local clergy.

Thanks for the reply and new info. Good Luck out there. C9

 

[cambria09]

BTW- Schuetzen is a traditional Bavarian/German type of marksmanship competition. It also is/was a social gathering. You know, drink beer and shoot guns...

We ID'd a schuetzen target in this forum back in the spring.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/603965-what.html

Yo DCMatt. That target is pretty cool. Thanks for the reply and Good Luck out there. C9