Is this modern?

[m bryan]

I know nothing about shells.....Wondering if it was modern or older?

 

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[creskol]

1902 - 1911

 

[diggummup]

I was gonna say around the turn of the 20th century.

 

[m bryan]

I was gonna say around the turn of the 20th century.

Thanks, also found a token from the turn of the century there today.

 

[creskol]

I was gonna say around the turn of the 20th century.

Thanks, also found a token from the turn of the century there today.

That casing was made by the Union Metallic Cartridge Company, which started operations in 1867 There seems to be some confusion as to whether they merged with Remington in 1902 or 1911. At any rate, they made those shell right up until the merger, hence the date range I previously posted as 1902-1911. Perhaps somebody else has better information, and will chime in to clarify.

 

[diggummup]

I was gonna say around the turn of the 20th century.

Thanks, also found a token from the turn of the century there today.

That casing was made by the Union Metallic Cartridge Company, which started operations in 1867 There seems to be some confusion as to whether they merged with Remington in 1902 or 1911. At any rate, they made those shell right up until the merger, hence the date range I previously posted as 1902-1911. Perhaps somebody else has better information, and will chime in to clarify.

Good info creskol.

 

[turtlefoot13]

UMC started making the "CLUB" shell in both all brass and in brass head/paper shell in 1885. They stopped the all brass in 1886 and stopped the brass/paper in 1890-1891. In 1891 UMC started producing the "NEW CLUB" along with the "BLACK CLUB". The "NEW CLUB" was smokless powder and the "BLACK CLUB" was black powder. The "NEW CLUB" continued to be manufactured until 1911 when they merged with Remington and then was manufactured under the Rem-UMC name also.

I am familiar with three varieties of headstamps for the NEW CLUB. Yours is the star primer variety. From the best as I can tell, it will date closer to the 1911 side of the date range. It is very similar to the Rem-UMC NEW CLUB. The other two varieties that I am familiar with are a simple headstamp and a circle instead of star around the primer.

Nice find by the way! Shotshell heads are my favorite thing to find.

Doug

Note - The date of 1911 is what I have in a database that I am working on. I have a couple of rather reliable sources concerning some information. One source talks about the new lines of shells that UMC put out between 1891-1905 and another talks about the completion of the UMC/Remingtion merger in 1911. They could be wrong though as I have not verified it through primary resources though.

 

[creskol]

UMC started making the "CLUB" shell in both all brass and in brass head/paper shell in 1885. They stopped the all brass in 1886 and stopped the brass/paper in 1890-1891. In 1891 UMC started producing the "NEW CLUB" along with the "BLACK CLUB". The "NEW CLUB" was smokless powder and the "BLACK CLUB" was black powder. The "NEW CLUB" continued to be manufactured until 1911 when they merged with Remington and then was manufactured under the Rem-UMC name also.

I am familiar with three varieties of headstamps for the NEW CLUB. Yours is the star primer variety. From the best as I can tell, it will date closer to the 1911 side of the date range. It is very similar to the Rem-UMC NEW CLUB. The other two varieties that I am familiar with are a simple headstamp and a circle instead of star around the primer.

Nice find by the way! Shotshell heads are my favorite thing to find.

Doug

Note - The date of 1911 is what I have in a database that I am working on. I have a couple of rather reliable sources concerning some information. One source talks about the new lines of shells that UMC put out between 1891-1905 and another talks about the completion of the UMC/Remingtion merger in 1911. They could be wrong though as I have not verified it through primary resources though.

Thanks for the more complete information. I appreciate that!

 

[m bryan]

You guys are awesome! thanks.

 

[kuger]

I was going to refer this to Turtlefoot!God job guys!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

You guys are awesome! thanks.

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