Is this a Fisher forum or

[TomNWMI]

a Minelab forum?

If ya haven't actually used a Fisher your wasting space bashing them and saying your machine (whatever it is) is better.

Just a suggestion but most of you guys need to get out in the field and do some real detecting and comparing instead of posting the type of comments I see on here that seem to be based solely on reading other people opinions and passing them on as your own.

Get out there and form your own opinions based on "real results" for a change

Cripes!!

What a bunch of useless drivel!!

Sign me gone!

 

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[EDDE]

Unfortunately, you are right. Machine and brand loyalties run rampant throughout many of these internet forums. However, fortunately for us, TreasureNet is a moderated forum, and as such, you can click on the Report to Moderator feature in the offending post.

done your on the way out buck-OHHHHHH

 

[Sandman]

Many of the posters here use more than one brand of detector and they like to compare the two here instead of the proper forum. After you have learned a few different types and brands you can then do the comparisons for the benifit of others new to the hobby. There are lots of new hunters that are reading the claims made by some manufactures and believing in them. Wouldn't you like to know the detector you are thinking of buying is not as good as the false claims? If it was truely bashing, they would hear about it in PM's.

Take Care.
Sandman

 

[lessthanzero]

a Minelab forum?

If ya haven't actually used a Fisher your wasting space bashing them and saying your machine (whatever it is) is better.

Just a suggestion but most of you guys need to get out in the field and do some real detecting and comparing instead of posting the type of comments I see on here that seem to be based solely on reading other people opinions and passing them on as your own.

Get out there and form your own opinions based on "real results" for a change

Cripes!!

What a bunch of useless drivel!!

Sign me gone!

You probably wear Fisher underwear too........ And, I have used both........

 

[Keppy]

...Sandman ..Is right you need variety in the forum's & post's in order to get the real story on different brands. I don't think it would be that good to hear only what we want to hear........==Jim==

On the other side of the coin...those who don't own, or have never owned a Fisher product seem to be putting their spin into the mix. I think that is the spirit of this particular thread.


Such as:

You are right ...Badger... i am a minelab person and will never change i would never by a Fisher if i go silent search it would be ....Tesoro....In the Winter i sort of get carried away but common sense always comes back

It is not that i never owned a fisher it is that now BH owns Fisher there is a chance that i will never buy one again they were some darn good detectors............And i still have my Fisher Belt Buckle...You see you thought i never owned a Fisher I have been at this for about 37 years .......You will never get people to talk about ..Fisher 0nly on a Fisher thread....or Garrett on Garrett thread....or Minelab on a Minelab thread And ect......it will never happen..................==Jim==

 

[erikk]

a Minelab forum?

If ya haven't actually used a Fisher your wasting space bashing them and saying your machine (whatever it is) is better.

Just a suggestion but most of you guys need to get out in the field and do some real detecting and comparing instead of posting the type of comments I see on here that seem to be based solely on reading other people opinions and passing them on as your own.

Get out there and form your own opinions based on "real results" for a change

Cripes!!

What a bunch of useless drivel!!

Sign me gone!

I agree. Unless you have at least 100 hours on a machine you are probably not qualified to make an intelligent judgement

 

[Keppy]

a Minelab forum?

If ya haven't actually used a Fisher your wasting space bashing them and saying your machine (whatever it is) is better.

Just a suggestion but most of you guys need to get out in the field and do some real detecting and comparing instead of posting the type of comments I see on here that seem to be based solely on reading other people opinions and passing them on as your own.

Get out there and form your own opinions based on "real results" for a change

Cripes!!

What a bunch of useless drivel!!

Sign me gone!

I agree. Unless you have at least 100 hours on a machine you are probably not qualified to make an intelligent judgement

....It might be useless but i enjoy reading what every body puts up no matter were they put it up..........==Jim==

 

[EasyMoney]

When I was age 8 I liked Fords.
My Dad had one.
When I was age 18 I liked my Buick
When I was age 28 I liked my Pontiac GTO
When I was age 38 I liked my Fiat 124 sports car.
When I was age 48 I really like my big Oldsmobile 88
When I was age 58 I really did like my old BMW,
and my ancient Alfa Romeo Spyder.

I still have the BMW and Alfa, and two Ford vans, one Ford PU, and one Buick, 10 motorcycles, and a Ford tractor. I still have them all and I don't like any one of them any better than the other. In a year or so I'll have enough money saved to buy an 80's Ferrari 328. I'll be 64 then. Maybe I'll finally like one vehicle more than all the rest. Who knows?

I own at least 25 detectors. And I've owned twice that many. And repaired 4 times THAT many. I repaired detectors for ten years. My favorites are the ones that have consistently worked well with the fewest problems andhave given me the greatest rewards and joys.

These are:

Fishers
Bounty Hunters
Garretts
One Minelab
Teknetics
AH Pros
Gold Mountains
Wilson Neumans
White's
Tesoros
Compasses
Jetcos
And others

The ones that have been the very best and lest problem and break down the least are;

Fishers
Compasses
Tesoros

I mostly use the Fisher cz-70 because of it's nice balance, but the vlf Compass is the deepest detecting and is best for finding nuggets and tiny jewelry by far, even before I boosted it's power. An old Bounty Hunter 840 found me the most gold and coins, and the old silver Saber has found the most coins and jewelry on the beaches here, and the most silver coins too everywhere.

It's ok to show your own personal results on these forums, and at times it's ok to emote a little too, especially when people do as some of you say, to only quote what they read instead of what they experience, OR, they get tired of the complaining. And then there is the poor guy who goes out and buys one of the pieces of trash that brand-loyal people boast about. What else could he do? He has to like it after he buys it. .

Nobody gets 16" on a coin in normal ground and nobody gets that deep on a normal beach either. Read what Gary's in the UK found out when they tested the Nexus against a few other so-called (deep) detectors for depth. Only the powerhouse Nexus could find a coin down to 9" in that ground, and that ground is weak too. . Those tests will surprize you. In fact, there is still seldom more than 2" difference in depth between a $200 detector and a $1300 one, no matter what detector it is. Yes, there are some that go a tiny bit deeper and work a tiny bit better and operate a lot slower or quicker, but that's why we should always check out at least 2 of the same model before we buy.

One of the flimsiest, cheapest made (but expensive) dedicated nugget detectors I've ever seen is sitting in a pawn shop right now near me and it is supposed to be "built like a tank". It's also supposed to get real good air and soil depth too, but all we could get out of it was 9" in air on a dime. It's just another case of hype about that certain brand, and nothing more. And yes, I too have found that about 90% of people on here exaggerate a bit too much, or only reiterate what they read instead of recanting what they have experienced personally. I guess it's because they don't expect to be caught in a (shall we say fib?) in person, maybe that's why.

 

[oldbill]

EasyMoney, AH Pro, Oh I loved it in one years time many many years ago I was testing the AH product and I filled 2 butter churns with silver coins. That was at the time when the Hunt brothers had the price of silver sky hi. Sold the silver and made a hell of a profit. still have back in kansas some place an original AH Probe, if Ex wife would only send it to me! Bill

 

[lessthanzero]

Hey SWR, I was being facetious.......and, I am wise beyond your years........

 

[EasyMoney]

OldBill,,

Guess what I'm ordering tomorrow?

Yep, an AH Pro Backpacker weighing in at a svelt 2 pounds or so. I'm also looking for an AH Pro 5 because they also had an all-metal mode and a ground condition switch.

Like most of my detectors, I don't need them, I just collect them, but I have a special use for the Backpacker. The AH's though had a very serious discrimination circuit for canceling iron and steel, and some weighed even less than the lower priced Tesoros do today. Of course they weren't very powerful, but the ground was loaded with stuff back then and even a BFO worked pretty well in many cases.

I remember getting between $5 and $10 in change every time I went out in those days. Silver was still everywhere in the ground, even in places where you wouldn't expect it to be. Copper jewelry was all over the place too, and there seemed to be a lot more gold rings back then. So far, I've found about $300 face value in silver coins, and $7,000 in clad since the early 70's, plus around $3,000 in second-hand-price jewelry. I have paid for every detector I've ever owned with my finds, and then some..

The deepest vlf all-metal I've ever used or seen was an original Garrett Deepseeker, made in the mid-70's. It made these new detectors seem like children's toys.

Times will never be the same.

Larry

 

[Keppy]

..Hey SWR..your --obnoxlous--------- and i am also wise beyond your years......

 

[Sandman]

When I was younger I thought I was wise. Now I don't remember knowing anything.

Yes, those were the days back then when money was everywhere. I have fond memories of a C&G Bobcat, an old TR unit that you slid the coil on the ground.

 

[MR----B]

I happen to be a dealer for fisher! I ues all the machines! My only passion is detecting,(been at it for 33 years) and I try to do it every day. I used to be strictly minelab, until I started using others, so I don't bash. Most of the members on here would do it everyday if they could! They deon't just read others and give info, cause some topics have so many replies, that they don't want to read every reply before posting. so If you read some that sound similar, that is why.

 

[EasyMoney]

Yeah Sandman.

I don't remember where the C&G's were made, but I do remember the Gold Mountains.

Those Gold Mountains were actually made by Garrett. The C&G's may have been too because they both came out at the same time in order to compete with the Red Baron. . The GM building was in the same town and their delivery trucks commonly went back and forth between the two buildings too. The Bobcat was the smaller of the C&G's, and was fairly lightweight too. The Wildcat was a bit heavier and a tiny bit more powerful. Nearly everybody scrubbed the coils back then, remember?

So many don't realize that all metal detector companies commonly wash each others hands. They've done this for at least 30 years too. Some even have their work done by the same people in China now. Back then I worked at an electronics development and circuitboard manufacturing plant that White's subbed out to them. The two companies were roughly 80 miles apart. Maybe I shouldn't say this, so I'll be careful how I word it, Almost every American metal detector company now has their crap made in an overseas plant somewhere. It is then (sometimes) assembled here. I think that most people already know this though, but we do have to be careful so as not to rile a few Corporate lawyers with what we say. The proof of this co-conspiracy or collusion factor lies in the very electronics and parts products one finds when opening one of the detectors. The proof of where it has been assembled is right there on the box that it came in on.

Yes, just as both Tesoro and Fisher made the Shadow detectors, so goes it for other companies swapping ideas and plans. Even Ferrari is 85% owned by Fiat now. I will not name detector company names because I don't really care, but the Gold Mountain was a real stout detector and also fairly simple in it's operation. I liked it too, and not just because it was a Garrett in disguise.

Those were the days. Wish they were still here.

EasyMoney

 

[bavarianminister]

I purchased my first Fisher product 14 years ago. It is the CZ6 model - and was so impressed, I purchased a goldbug. They are both great detectors - especially the CZ. I still own the CZ and use it to this day.

My only concern is that when I looked at a current model 1236-X2 - it had a made in China sticker on it. And now that Bounty Hunter has purchased Fisher - I can only hope that they will continue with the old Fisher quality.

I am an older fellow and have seen many changes with industry. Lately - industry changes haven't been good for american products.

Bavarian

 

[lessthanzero]

You wise guys should probably hook-up with each other

Hey SWR, I was being facetious.......and, I am wise beyond your years........

..Hey SWR..your --obnoxlous--------- and i am also wise beyond your years......

:::chortles:::

Good idea, then it would be wise to the second power..........

 

[Keppy]

The Second power yes i like that the Second power but at my age i need a third power..........

 

[lessthanzero]

The Second power yes i like that the Second power but at my age i need a third power..........

That might be too much power for anyone person to handle. The only two that could possibly handle that much power and wisdom is
the "Sandman" and the "Michigan Badger". Learn a lot from those two.......

 

[Keppy]

....Yes that ....Sandman....&.....M. Badger....Know there stuff and i read all there post's they have good information and i like there post's....................................==Jim==