Is this a cw bayonet?

[tlowery04]

Found this in a house I was paid to clean out. They had been using it as a fireplace poker.
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[OUTCOME1]

DAMN!!! I WOULD THINK IT IS...NICE FIND!

 

[Lafitte Deux]

It does look like the bayonet for a Springfield rifle.
Can you measure the diameter of the sleeve interior?
That will help determine what caliber the gun was.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

that looks like one to me. Might want to get with cannonballguy. He would tell you pretty quik if it is! gl!!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

As Lafitte Deux said, we need precise measurement of the interior diameter of the "sleeve" (socket). Check it at the front end of the tunnel. Until we get that precise measurement, your bayonet cannot be time-dated.

Somebody sawed off the back half of the socket -- which ruined this bayonet's value to a Militaria collector.

Lacking a US-mark on the top of the blade's base means it was never issued to US Army troops. It could have been a State Militia bayonet, or a foreign-made one.

On that note... it may indeed be foreign-made, because I cannot find an exact match for it among any American-made bayonets. http://www.gundersonmilitaria.com/bayonet.html

One of your photos shows a closeup view of the top of the blade's base where it joins the "arm" coming down from under the socket. Now we need a closeup photo of that same area but shot from the side. (In other words, a "sideview" of the blade's base.

 

[tlowery04]

Will post photos when i get back home. Diggumup had suggested it could be a 1855 us modified but couldn't be certain.

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[NOLA_Ken]

It looks like it could be a Danish bayonet, possibly the model of 1825, or 1829. Scroll down this link about a third of the way and there are links to photos.

Norska bajonetter/Norwegian bayonets

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Outstanding ID-work, NOLA_Ken!

The key ID-clue for me that it wasn't American-made is that the socket does not project at all in front of the "arm/shank." Also, the "very-rounded" corners on the blade's base.

Of NOLA_Ken's two suggestions (Danish model-1825 or model-1829), I think it appears to be the Danish Model-1825, for the following reasons:
"Very-rounded" corners on blade's base
Small deep round dimple-mark on top of blade's base
Doesn't have the Model-1829's "thicker & shorter" arm/shank (see notes about the 1829 model, under the photo at the website link given by NOLA_Ken).

Let me publicly give NOLA_Ken a respectful bow, and tip my old grey kepi to him for his ouststanding ID-work.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Thank you CannonballGuy. The next question for me though, is what do the markings on the socket actually mean? I would suggest contacting the owner of the site, at his other page. Bayonets of Scandinavia

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Def a pre cw bayonet! really kewl grab!

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Well I can't figure out the markings.....I spent a good long time tring to track down early 19th century regiments whos initials would match.... So I asked the gentleman whose site I linked to if he could have a look, and sent a link to this post.

 

[tlowery04]

Wow, once again I'm impressed with the knowledge and resources this community provides. I was told more than once that it was a common civil war bayonet, but nobody could ever tell me definitively what it was. Thank you so much, now that I know what it is I can properly catalog it and make a display for it. I was thinking something like a baseball bat style case with a trophy id tag on it. I would be very interested in knowing what the stamps mean also. Do you still need more detailed photographs?

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I heard back from the gentleman who runs the website I linked to:

"Hi !

Nice bayonet !
It is a Norwegian M1825.

I am at work in Marocco right now, but I can check the markings when I get how, after the weekend I hope...

best regards
/per"

In the meantime, here is a link to photos and a description of the rifle your bayonet was made for.

http://norskevaapen.no/?p=563

 

[yaxthri]

A very cool fireplace pocker!!!...