Is there is a better detector then Tracker IV ?

[magoman]

I bout a Tracker IV about a month ago, and sure that I like this hobby. I don't mind to buy more expensive
machine - but will it be any better?
The Tracker IV have automatic ground balance and should be good for any ground condition- from black sand
to the salt beach. (BH promice it and I believe them for now). I also just odered 10" and 4" coils.
As I understand, current 8" coil finds coins on 8" dip, and large objects up to 3 feet dip. The only problem in
my opinion - is not clear "broken tone" for pull tabs. But with 4" coil they promice more clear audio.
With 10" coil (I hope to use it on the beach) they promice more deepness (10"? 12"? 14?) they don't say how much, and more accurate pinpointing. I guess it will be bad audio - but on the beach everybody dig ALL signals
any way...
Well, I don't know how deep is the target... But with this detector I just check after 1-st scoop- if target
is still in the soil. If yes - make a 2-nd scoop and so on. I'm sure I can live without this future. And I see only
positive reviews on this machine:
http://metaldetectorreviews.net/detectors/65-1-tracker4.html
and "different opinions" on expensive machines.
Please, can anybody to explain me - what exactly is better in expensive detector?
- If they read diper? Then, what deepness is nessesary for most tresuares?
- Do they really have something important that I can"t achive with this machine - or they just more
convinient and "cool"?

P.S. I think about whites DSX - but find out that it requered more programming then treasures hunting itself...
And too complicated for me, I gess.

Thank you for any info...

 

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[Phantasman]

If you're happy with the Tracker, stay with it. The more expensive one's will always be there. Being twice the price doesn't always mean it's twice as good.

 

[Sandman]

You will find that the more expensive machines are made of higher quality materials and have a great service policy if you should ever need one. What they say about you generally get what you pay for is true. However the BH is a fair detector and will do a job if you learn it well. A lot of us require the more expensive machines because we enjoy playing with the knobs and pictures on the screens. It is part of the whole experience of having fun.

About the pull tabs, lay a pull tab down and a gold ring. Discriminate out the pull tab and see if you can still pick up the gold ring.

 

[magoman]

Thank you for replies.
I guess I find out the pull tabs problem: they have a "broken" tone when discrimination is right. But depending
of kind of pull tab sometimes they give high or low tone... But gold is always give a low tone. So, when I doubt
about gold, I just turn discrimination knob. And if it make low tone always - It may be a gold.If it changed from high
to low (or from Low to high) - it is the pull tube.
Never the less I already not happy with this detector... Because I always and everywere find just modern coins
(a lot of them), but very few with historic value. And now I think to buy Fisher CZ-3d - because this one
will pick up older coins, but may miss many modern coins. And all this detectors will be produce by the same
company - Bounty Hunter just aquared the Fisher company - and I like their customer service.

 

[Eddy1H]

Magoman, If you want to find old coins you will have to do a little research, If you are finding modern coins your machine will find older coins, sometime older coins are deeper but not always it depends alot on the soil where they are as to how fast they sink and how the ground is made up, ground with lots of iron in it will cause your detector to be a bit erratic, and in most cases will not detect as deep. On gold rings, well that is all in the diggers desire to find one, they look the same to your detector as pull tabs, so to find one you will have to plan on digging most all the signals above iron, and eventually you will dig up a gold ring. I think the ratio of gold to pull tabs is about 200 to 1, just a guess, but I personally dig lots of pull tabs looking for gold.

Good luck hunting

Eddy

 

[TonyinCT]

Just my two cents but the Tracker IV will not work in wet salt conditions especially with black sand content. Many high end detectors have this problem also. It also will not go 3' deep on anything in my testing and use. The CZ3D will still find newer clad coins , thye won';t be eleiminated . the enhanced mode is there to be used in older areas to "pull" the lower toned nickels and and bronze / brass objects and coins up into the higher tone area so you are more likely to dig them. 8)

 

[Phantasman]

Bounty Hunter, for the price, is a great way to learn the ropes in detecting. Most people claim anywhere from 3" to 5" depth, and there are a lot of coins in that range, especially in areas that aren't hunted out. Forget the 3 feet thing unless you're looking for a buried Volkswagen.

I would rather be good at what is going on at 3" to 6" than to be guessing at 8". Learn your BH first and get good at it and the more expensive, deeper ones will be easier to adjust to.

 

[magoman]

Thanks everybody for your replies!
But it is a little bit late - I already bought Fisher CZ-3D, and went with it
to old place. Find about $2 in change (one weetie 1942 s) - all of them was
about 2-3" deep. But I also find over 10 coins that is 4-8" deep, but can't
dig it out because soil is frozen deeper then 3" now. (Spend about 2 hours).
I did some research and have 2 permitions from my friends for MD their properties.
I'm in Connecticut, where soil have very low sink rate. Probably everything deeper
then 4" will be old.
Now to the point: I'm newbee and used Tracker IV about 2 month before winter.
I find really a lot of modern coins with Tracker IV and one silver ring and one Walking
Liberty. BUT...I never know how deep target is - and this was a huge disadvantage.
CZ-3D works completely differently- there is no difference in sound beetwin penny,dime or
quoter - (not like Tracker IV) -they all give same short high tone. For now I just discriminate everything besides coins for "cherry picking" and it works nice. But now
I know how deep is the target and planing not dig nothing less deeper then 3". I hope
it will save me some time for good targets.
I was pretty disappointed with Tracker to dig out every day more then 100 modern pennies - a lots of work for $1!

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

planing not dig nothing less deeper then 3". I

Big mistake there Magoman. From what you've written, I think everyone here can agree you are on the right path.......but not digging coin targets that are less than 3 inches is a huge mistake. When you are in an area with old coins.....those coins can be in less than 1 inch of dirt tangled in grass roots. I've found a mercury dime in less than 1 inch. If it is a coin........dig it no matter what. You'll never know what you walked over.

 

[magoman]

Thank you, Ricardo, you are right. I went to hunt with CZ-3d 4 times now (3-4 hours each). First time I try not to pick up coins less then 2 inch deep - but later just try to understand what detector says, and after 2 silver pieces change my mind...
3d manual recommend to not make an opinion on detector before I use 3 sets of batteryes.
And I will post my impressions on this both detectors later. But this is just first impressions:
With Tracker IV my average finds was 1-2 Wittie on 150 coins. Silver was very rare...
With cz-3d - 3-4 Wittie and one silver for each 50 coins.
The Tracker IV finds a lots of new, shiny pennyies. Cz-3d finds very few of them- most
of modern pennies is dirty and rusty .
On this 4 hunts I find 1947 dime,1943 mercury,1964 quoter , silver religious medal (2 inch deep) and another pies of silver where man and women dancing. And goldplated chain.

 

[Mercury dude]

I have one of them and the fast tracker. Bounty Hunter

i have 2 MD's one need the poll that screw in the middle of the unit, does anyone know were I can get a new one for my Bounty Hunter

 

[Gretchen]

I have the Radio Shack Discovery 1000 (Bounty Hunter Tracker IV). I used it last year up in Puget Sound Washington. Works fine in Salt Water. It is an older model with the 7 inch coil. I also bought the 4 inch coil for narrow areas. I use the detector in all kinds of soil - sandy fresh water beaches and in the water. I run it on the tone side. It reads on everything, including on nickels and gold rings. If I use the disc - doesn't read on gold. Yesterday I found a men's wedding band at a small lake's beach by picnic tables. Thank goodness I was using Tone. There is probably a better detector then Tracker IV, but mine was a swap meet special at $10.00. I have found hundreds of coins with it including some silver. School grounds, campgrounds, Fresh water lakes and sled areas. Luckily I have no competition, areas all mine.