Is it Gold?

[Silver Searcher]

Hi everybody...

found this today, I've also posted it in today's finds, it looks like Gold and has a stamp on the back which looks like a Lion and a R I suppose I could google it but that would take that fun out of it

 

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[thrillathahunt]

Silver Searcher,

Can't tell if it is gold, however looks like someone tested it with acid with the file mark on the edge.

Rick

 

[romeo-1]

Guaranteed gold...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I think the lion is a traditional British hallmark of purity. Nice find. I dont understand these charts but maybe someone else can tell. http://www.britishhallmarkingcouncil.gov.uk/publications/hallmarks2.pdf

 

[Silver Searcher]

Silver Searcher,

Can't tell if it is gold, however looks like someone tested it with acid with the file mark on the edge.

Rick

Hi Rick...that's proberbly plough damage

 

[romeo-1]

I believe that the hallmarks indicate Birmingham 1886...

 

[romeo-1]

Scratch that...anchor is hallmark for Birmingham...

 

[thrillathahunt]

CONGRATULATIONS SS,

how many grams is it?

 

[Silver Searcher]

CONGRATULATIONS SS,

how many grams is it?

No Idea? will have to get myself some digital scales

 

[JakefaePa]

The Lion is the standard British hallmark for sterling silver , the R signifies the year.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

Looks like gold,great finds today SS..This may help you a bit...http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon9.html#M Looks like you have the 1812 R on your piece

 

[Silver Searcher]

The Lion is the standard British hallmark for sterling silver , the R signifies the year.

Hi... the only refrence I can find for R on Silver is 1792? A 1868, to Q 1884, after that symbels were used

 

[JakefaePa]

Let me double check that mate , ive brought my books here from Scotland.

Your going to need to clean up that R hallmark for me Silver Searcher , the Letter marks cycled every 20 years , they used 20 letters of the alphabet.
To determine which period that cycle was i need to see the shape of the R hallmark clearly , thanks

 

[Silver Searcher]

Let me double check that mate , ive brought my books here from Scotland.

Your going to need to clean up that R hallmark for me Silver Searcher , the Letter marks cycled every 20 years , they used 20 letters of the alphabet.
To determine which period that cycle was i need to see the shape of the R hallmark clearly , thanks

I'll give it a wash tomorrow and post another pic, bit late now gone midnight here

 

[JakefaePa]

No worries , gnite , ill have a list of possible dates and when we can see the R clearly we can say exactly what period it came from , cheers


I would hazard a guess to say it came after 1890 as between 1784 and 1890 there would have been 3 hallmarks.The 3rd being payment of duty.

Whats interesting is there is no city hallmark , to me that rules out being older than 1784 , it will also give us a headache pinning it down as each city had thier own mint and cycles of letters.
Its English for sure, if it were Scottish the lion would be Rampant.

England has thrown up a great many old items , maybe it is older than 1794.

 

[lostcauses]

silver with gold wash. On the stamps, they were faked also. It appears these are real. Part of a vinaigrette I believe. A device for carrying a deodorant.

 

[JakefaePa]

silver with gold wash. On the stamps, they were faked also. It appears these are real. Part of a vinaigrette I believe. A device for carrying a deodorant.

Thats got to be a positive thing..if it is a vinaigrette its at least 100 yrs old ?

 

[dozer dan]

easy test. rub it between you thumb and fore finger, now smell your fingers.
if its brass, your fingers will stink.

 

[Got_4by4]

It is definitely a lid as the lip in the end indicates. Perhaps to a trinket box meant to hold small jewelery or other valuables. If the top is open for a purpose then perhaps a poppouri (sp.?) where one might insert rose petals or rosemary, or cloves. Just my opinion. Love the detail!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

easy test. rub it between you thumb and fore finger, now smell your fingers.
if its brass, your fingers will stink.

Is this true? It seems to work with a penny. If this is true than dogs should be able to smell brass. Does it work for gold plated? In this case its either gold, silver or gold plated silver I think..