Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

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Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Alan Boyle writes:Scientists are buzzing over a peer-reviewed study that suggests humans have predictive powers, but it’s too early to predict whether or not the research will hold up.
The 61-page paper, titled "Feeling the Future," was written by Cornell psychology professor emeritus Daryl Bem and is due for publication in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. Bem says his experiments support the idea that there really is something to human precognition of events that haven't yet occurred.
These experiments led Bem to conclude that there's a slight but statistically significant precognition effect, particularly if the person making the prediction is a stimulus-seeking extrovert. Such "stimulus-seekers" recorded a slightly higher success rate on Bem's tests
Bem acknowledged that a 51.7 to 53 percent success rate might seem very close to what would be expected by chance. "But that's about the edge that a casino has over you, and guess what? They're still in business," he said. "We don't ignore things just because they're 53 percent."
Bem told me --

'it's "absurd" that he should be expected to come up with a theory to explain his data' -- .

He just knows that the data indicate there's a slight, subtle but statistically solid phenomenon worthy of further investigation.
"The odds against its just being chance are actually 7 billion to 1," Bem said. "In any experiment like this, critics are permitted to come up with alternatives to explain the results of the experiment, and some of those explanations are non-psi. That's fair game. But one thing we're sure of is that these results aren't due to chance."
I am not only bothered by the lack of a positive theory, but also by the contradictions between psi and ordinary scientific assumptions," he wrote in a Psychology Today blog posting. Precognition appears to run counter to the conventional view that causes precede their effects, he said. (Which reminds me to check in on the status of experiments in quantum retrocausality
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See -->http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19712-is-this-evidence-that-we-can-see-the-future.html
 

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Bem acknowledged that a 51.7 to 53 percent success rate might seem very close to what would be expected by chance. "But that's about the edge that a casino has over you, and guess what? They're still in business," he said. "We don't ignore things just because they're 53 percent."
Bem told me –
Very True
Note to our resident expert…. SWR....He tells us where the article Can be found
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Sorry Don….If they read the article their believe system would go into shock..
 

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Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp said:
sigh aa, you are sooo correct, especially if they understand it, which I doubt ????


Don Jose de La Mancha

Psi waves...
Then, electron as standing wave in orbitals, K,L,M.
Next, no mythical bosom.
Plank has long fallen appart.
Too many interests to admit it.
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Hi Hung: one thing that is very important and is often used as a quasi base argument (not discussion) by the sceptics, is the insistence of a provable theory at this state of development.

May I quote the author as --> 'it's "absurd" that he should be expected to come up with a theory to explain his data' -- .

That comes later, while we have excellent workable theories on what is electricity, PSI, dowsing, LrL's etc., they may all turn out to be incorrect in the end. One need only look at the suggested theories of electrical current flow (?) to see one crude example of switching theories.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl's? Dowsing yes.



Pretty Serious Imagination ?

Potent Self Importance ?

Pre-emptive Sanity Interruption ?

Physics Simply Ignored ?
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Watchit sat, normally, next to my lovely mule, comes La Judy, the human female of my dreams, beauty and brains combined, sigh, however she has edged out my purty mule. :-* :-* :-*

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. eat yer heart out prong horn !
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

I've heard that Equine body temperature is a couple of degrees warmer than humans.






... just saying.
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

That is true sat, but even human females warm up radically when they are around me. I wonder why? Do I bring out the mother instincts in them as swr does?

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Maybe it's those thermal vests and long johns that you wear... :hello:.. :tongue3:... :-*


U.
 

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sheehs shoily, I am going to have to check my monitor for hidden lens, how did you know? You must be Oirish and FEY.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

to all i am a dowser i have found a lots of wells and depth to water vein .do any of you know or heard of cold cash collins he was a dowser from okla. this is my first entry on treasure net
 

Re: Is a certain PSI ability needed or useful for Lrl"s? Dowsing yes.

Hey ol hunter...Welcome to the mad room..I have only tried water dowsing one time. Many people here believe that there is water everywhere. They have no idea about how things are out here in the west and a lot of the areas in the world. They laugh at the Betz study http://twm.co.nz/dowsing_jse_com.html The outcome was striking. An overall success rate of 96% (by dowsers) was achieved in 691 drillings in Sri Lanka….Art
 

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sorry, don't know a thing about cold cash collins.

This is an LRL forum. Dowsing for water is a subject much better fit for the dowsing forum than here, because LRL'ing is primarily about fraudulent representation of dowsing apparatus as electronic detection apparatus, a subject about which several people who post here are very knowledgeable. Myself included.

You'll find that I don't post much on the dowsing forum, because I recently got burnt there with the customary alabi system. I didn't want the silver, I just wanted dowsing without alabis. Thanks to the miracle of alabis, I'll never know if my dowse was any good or not.

For further insight into how the alabi system works, take a look at the H3 forum posts (if the H3 websie as a whole doesn't do the job on ya.)

--Dave J.
 

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~Woof~
This is an LRL forum. Dowsing for water is a subject much better fit for the dowsing forum than here, because LRL'ing is primarily about fraudulent representation of dowsing apparatus as electronic detection apparatus, a subject about which several people who post here are very knowledgeable. Myself included.

More double talk again…the skeptics are the ones that keep trying to link Dowsing to the use of LRL’s and MFD”s…I will say this again…If you try to Dowse with one of these devices you are doomed to failure….Good try again woof..Art
 

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~woof`
This is an LRL forum. Dowsing for water is a subject much better fit for the dowsing forum than here, because LRL'ing is primarily about fraudulent representation of dowsing apparatus as electronic detection apparatus, a subject about which several people who post here are very knowledgeable. Myself included.

Why is dowsing for water supposed to be in the Dowsing Forum ? Is it because you believe that LRL’s can not find water ?...I suspect that you have never searched for water or you would know the truth..So much for your limited knowledge…Yes I do have a freq for water..
 

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~rockhound~
There are only a few people who really know what frequencies work on what minerals,as to accurately activate a response from a LRl, and they have guarded this secret to the extent that some have never passed it on to their ancestors. Some took the secret to their grave. It is only through many years of experimenting and testing that I have found them. Also, dowsing is a completely different type of response altogether. There seems to be many here searching and trying to pry out the secrets from those that know. It is all futile,because even if they know,they will never reveal the secret so that the whole world knows. On the internet, if the secret were to get out, it would circle the globe in an hour. I do know that there are some fakes,frauds and misrepresentations out there,which give the legitimate ones a bad name,but there are some that are based on soild scientific principles,too. But these will never reveal their true functions to be copied or used for other purposes. Most of these were found accidentally or by many hours of R&D,which was invested before the final instrument was built and tested. Good Luck. Rockhound
Thank You…The makers of LRL’s that I have met helped me..I also know that they did not reveal everything to me. Just like the people I give hints to..I have told of people using one of my devices with conventional metal detectors. The name of the metal detectors and the name of my device will never be revealed by me…I learned to Dowse by reading between the lines of posts here on T-Net..I feel that what people learn by themselves will make them better Treasure Hunters ..Art
 

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hung said:
Psi waves...
Then, electron as standing wave in orbitals, K,L,M.
Next, no mythical bosom.
Plank has long fallen appart.
Too many interests to admit it.

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