Intact Brown Bess Musket Side Plate and a Great New Spot!

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What a great hunt! I hiked several miles out to two cellar holes that were on the same ridge. There was a nice variety of finds at each spot, but this one blew me away:

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I knew it was a musket side plate when I pulled it out of the ground, but it wasn't until I got back and started to research it that I realized it was from a Brown Bess musket. And then some more research leads me to believe that it's from the long land pattern which was the first iteration of the musket. The plate has the rounded features and the back even has the assembler's marks!

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The parts of the musket were specifically finished to fit with each other so they weren't easily interchangeable and the assemblers would mark the components so they could be identified as going together during production. Here's a photo of a long land musket with the side plate visible:

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Of course this means that by losing this side piece the owner of the musket lost use of the entire musket unless they could fashion some sort of a replacement. Interestingly almost every relic from this site was 1850's and up while this gun would have been produced in the 18th century. My guess is that this was an heirloom piece even then, since there's no evidence that this site dips back into the early 1800's, much less the 1700's. Here's everything else I found at that spot:

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It was a fairly run-of-the-mill home site besides the side plate. I did find one general service cuff button:

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And another piece which really surprised me when it popped out of the ground. I thought I was digging after a large cent!

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I'm pretty sure it's a bridle rosette based on the marks where the bar broke off, I've just never seen one with a letter set into the glass and it held up so well in the ground that it looks almost modern. Very odd, but no modern contamination at this spot and it was quite deep next to the cellar hole so I guess it's late 1800's.



The other home site is about half a kilometer away and very promising, but was buried by overgrowth so I'll have to revisit it when things have died down a little. Just the small area that was open yielded some great finds though. I found three marked crotal bells!

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One is "WB" for William Barton which is pretty commonly found around here. The other appears to be "EN" which isn't on the American nor the British list of bell makers so I don't know who that could be. The last is broken but has an "H." Just one marked bell is uncommon for me so three different ones in one spot is amazing! I also found a handful of buttons including half of a blowhole button!

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Definitely an older spot than the other site and a Connecticut copper in nice shape confirms it! :hello2:

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It's in good enough condition that I was able to identify the die variety, it's a 1787 Miller 31.1-gg.1. Not rare, but scarce and any colonial copper that's identifiable makes my day! The one other coin was almost a surface find:

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1868 shield nickle in pretty solid shape. I can't wait to get at the rest of this spot and see what else is hiding under the weeds! The first spot is pretty well tapped out, but I suspect that there are a few great finds left here and despite the long hike it's near the top of my list for the spring!
 

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Brown Bess - what an epic piece of history - great save!
 

Absolutely amazing! Every item you featured individually is on my rather lengthy bucket list! Excellent work and recoveries!
 

You don't see those side plates found intact very often. Nice Connecticut copper as well. Can we get a better pic of the conical piece to the left of the suspender clip in the first picture. From here it looks like a ramrod tip to an 18th century musket. I have seen several recovered on French & Indian War sites here in SW PA.
 

Can we get a better pic of the conical piece to the left of the suspender clip in the first picture. From here it looks like a ramrod tip to an 18th century musket. I have seen several recovered on French & Indian War sites here in SW PA.

That would be awesome if it's another piece! Here are some close-ups:

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Outstanding!
 

Sorry. That's not a ramrod tip. The wide end should be closed, not open.

No worries; it is pretty thin brass. I was very hopeful that it was an old site, but besides that side plate not so much as a flat button for old relics. :dontknow:
 

That 1st Model Brown Bess sideplate is a killer find, congrats!
 

dang!!! nice piece of history
 

Nice sites with some great recoveries, very nice side plate, nice copper & shield too, congrats on all
 

Awesomeness!!! I recently dug a rosette similar to the one you have their but mine has a horse in the center and the glass is cracked but they look to be made by the same company, i dug mine on the edge of a horse/car race track that dates back to 1880s the track still gets used....
 

Those are some pretty cool finds.
Would love to find a Brown Bess side plate.
 

Very Nice!!! Congrats!!! Shield Nickel Bucket Lister!!!
 

Wow thanks for sharing! One has to wonder where the rest of the musket went!? Seams like people generally only find one part... one has to imagine that entire muskets were lost too!? From reading your posts I assume you are a very meticulous detectorist, but I'd go back a bunch and keep hitting those spots there has got to be more to find!!! Great finds and that CT copper is a great one!
 

Nice finds!!

I believe you are correct on the glass piece being a rosette. I found a nearly identical one at the courthouse site last summer. I don't have a picture handy but it was basically like this one, with the "sunburst" pattern
 

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You're exactly right about the Roman numerals being assembly marks. I just stripped a M94 Winchester made in 1938 and found similar marks on it. Amazing how little has changed with gun making over that long of a time period. I'm guessing CNC machines are so precise now that there is little hand fitting left to be done. Gary

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