Infinite Restarts - Nox 800

[Iron Buzz]

OK, this has been going on for a while now. It is an intermittent problem, which is the worst kind to diagnose. Every now and then, when I go to start up my Nox, it will start cycling into showing the startup graphics, then shutting down, then starting again, then shutting down, over and over, until I turn it off. Turn it on again and it will repeat. It isn't until I do a factory reset that it will start again. That always works, so I'm not stuck with a dead machine, thank God, but it kind of messes with using any sort of customized profile, for sure.

I'm not 100% sure of this yet, but it at least *seems* that, when this has happened to me, that the battery did not recharge from the night before. I'm just saying this because there could possibly be a connection.

Has anyone else here seen this behavior? I think I've had it happen to me four or five times now.

 

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https://www.kellycodetectors.com/pdf/manuals/equinox600-800_english.pdf

 

[Bayoutalker]

OK, this has been going on for a while now. It is an intermittent problem, which is the worst kind to diagnose. Every now and then, when I go to start up my Nox, it will start cycling into showing the startup graphics, then shutting down, then starting again, then shutting down, over and over, until I turn it off. Turn it on again and it will repeat. It isn't until I do a factory reset that it will start again. That always works, so I'm not stuck with a dead machine, thank God, but it kind of messes with using any sort of customized profile, for sure.

I'm not 100% sure of this yet, but it at least *seems* that, when this has happened to me, that the battery did not recharge from the night before. I'm just saying this because there could possibly be a connection.

Has anyone else here seen this behavior? I think I've had it happen to me four or five times now.

Try going back to an older version and then back to the current one. It may have gotten corrupted.

If that doesn't work call ML.

 

[smokeythecat]

Like Bayoutalker said. If it's fully charged, all cables tight, do a factory reset, and if does it one more time call Minelab and get it sent back for repairs while you have a warranty. That's what warranties are for.

 

[cudamark]

I had that happen once about a year ago. Hasn't happened since.

 

[Ed_DE]

I had it happen also. Ended up sending control pod to Minelab service center. They replaced it with a new control pod. I haven't had any more problems after that.

 

[Iron Buzz]

https://www.kellycodetectors.com/pdf/manuals/equinox600-800_english.pdf

That's a link to the instruction manual. What's your point?

 

[Iron Buzz]

OK, good (in a way) to know that it is not just me. That tells me that Minelab has got to be aware of it already. I won't be sending it back until after our first hard frost or heavy snow, though.

 

[Iron Buzz]

Got a new problem that just cropped up recently. I just discovered it today but it explains why yesterday, when I went back over a tearout with my Deus that I had already covered quite well with the Equinox, that I found that I had missed a bunch of stuff...

Today a friend with an Equinox asked me to check a signal for her. I replied that it was reading 15-16 and was probably aluminum. She said it was 18-20 for her! We were both in Multi IQ mode and using the same preset. So I pulled out a silver dime that I carry for testing purposes and sure enough... it was ringing in at 12-14. A clad quarter was reading about the same!

I went through my single frequencies, and 4, 5, and 10 were good. 15 was a bit low, and 20 and 40 and multi were all way off! I have tried a FP restart and it did not help.

Guess this is going back to Minelab sooner than I had hoped.

 

[Iron Buzz]

Update: Problem solved. Dirt under the coil cover. I got lazy and paid the price.

 

[Donut]

I just did this to both of my 11” coils.
i was tired of them filling with our very fine Lake Michigan sand, it would pour out.
I got a tube of clear silicon in a tube and filled all the cavities on the bottom of my coils then let dry overnight. I’ll bet I will never have to remove the skid cover about twice a year and nothing will be in their.
Doug

 

[Iron Buzz]

I just did this to both of my 11” coils.
i was tired of them filling with our very fine Lake Michigan sand, it would pour out.
I got a tube of clear silicon in a tube and filled all the cavities on the bottom of my coils then let dry overnight. I’ll bet I will never have to remove the skid cover about twice a year and nothing will be in their.
Doug

Yeah, what is the point of them making the covers removable in the first place, anyway? I suppose there may be some people that can wear them out, but I never have even come close.

 

[Iron Buzz]

I just did this to both of my 11” coils.
i was tired of them filling with our very fine Lake Michigan sand, it would pour out.
I got a tube of clear silicon in a tube and filled all the cavities on the bottom of my coils then let dry overnight. I’ll bet I will never have to remove the skid cover about twice a year and nothing will be in their.
Doug

Turns out, though, that the coil cover wasn't the problem after all. I don't know what went wrong with my air test last night, but when I hit the field today, the same problem was back. A clad quarter was ringing up at 12.

 

[Donut]

Just one clad or more. Soil conditions, tinfoil near and sensivity to high, recovery speed.Something else is causing it. I don’t think it’s the processor or the program.
could your coil wire from the coil to the shaft be flopping. If it moves too much it can give a false signal. But don’t strap it down so bad it breaks the cable as it would break if the coil was moved.
Doug.

 

[Iron Buzz]

Just one clad or more. Soil conditions, tinfoil near and sensivity to high, recovery speed.Something else is causing it. I don’t think it’s the processor or the program.
could your coil wire from the coil to the shaft be flopping. If it moves too much it can give a false signal. But don’t strap it down so bad it breaks the cable as it would break if the coil was moved.
Doug.

Just one clad quarter, but tested both coils with the same quarter. Not the cable... I've switched back and forth several times while testing this. It was an air test, and just did a factory reset so sensitivity was 20. All other settings were at their default. I've been using this machine since 2018 so I've got a pretty good idea of when it is being flaky, and this is maximum flaky.

 

[Donut]

I think (my opinion) the new 3.0 is more sensitive because I use mine at lower sensitivity and clad quarters are a solid 19 in the ground.
dimes 25 and nickels 13. Pennie 19-22 drive me nuts.
Doug

 

[cudamark]

Quarters are only 19 on your machine?

 

[Donut]

Quarters are only 19 on your machine?

Oops my bad 29

 

[cougar14]

About the same, except copper pennies are often 25.

 

[Iron Buzz]

Quarters are only 19 on your machine?

Oops my bad 29

I wuz gonna say...!