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Some time back I posted a story of some guys arrested in Indonesia, I followed it for a while but then eventually nothing more came out. Today I find this article.

Treasure hunter seeks more shipwreck riches in Asia

By Charlie Zhu | August 9, 2006

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - In Tilman Walterfang's eyes, the seabed of Southeast Asian waters is a bonanza.
After discovering three treasure-laden shipwrecks in Indonesian waters between 1997 and 1998, including the famous Tang Treasure that was sold to Singapore in 2004 for $32 million, the German treasure hunter is returning to the region for more.

He believes there are more shipwrecks resting on seabeds across Southeast Asia, especially in the Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping lanes and dubbed by some as a graveyard of ships for its treacherous reefs.

"The Malacca Strait is full of rocks, reefs and small islands. Nobody knows exactly how many shipwrecks are there, but we would find out," the 49-year-old former engineer told Reuters in a recent interview.
He is working with investors on a $50 million plan to salvage wrecks in Indonesia and Vietnam under national licenses akin to production-sharing contacts for oil.
The plan also calls for the construction of museums and archeological conservation centers in Vietnam and Bali.
The potential of more discoveries in the Strait of Malacca has lured many treasure hunters. Walterfang is one of them, and perhaps the most successful, so far.
His latest find, in 1998, was a blockbuster. It was the wreck of an Arab ship laden with more than 60,000 ceramic pieces and gold and silver artifacts from China's Tang dynasty (618-907), possibly bound for a grand wedding in Arabia.

SHIP GRAVEYARD

Besides Walterfang's finds, other notable discoveries include a Dutch warship that sank off Malaysia over 400 years ago and salvaged in 1995. Experts recovered a bronze cannon from the Nassau, which sank after a battle with Portuguese warships.

The British merchant ship Diana, which sank off Malacca in 1817, was discovered in 1993, yielding Chinese plates, bowls, candlesticks and other artifacts that fetched 2.2 million pounds ($4.1 million) at an Amsterdam auction two years later.

John Miksic, Southeast Asian history expert at the National University of Singapore, said there could be more breathtaking finds ahead after the Tang Treasure.

A ship of Admiral Zheng He's "Treasure" fleet in the Ming dynasty (1368-1644) would make a sensational find. Zheng led seven armadas through Southeast Asia and beyond to spread Chinese influence from 1405 to 1433.
Red-and-white porcelains from the period would be extremely precious, Miksic said. A red-and-white jar from the early Ming era was recently sold at auction for $10 million, Miksic added.

Walterfang said Indonesian fishermen had been a key source of information and would continue to be. He says he keeps good relations with them through an Indonesian in-law.

He was bitten by the treasure bug after fishermen showed him samples from shipwrecks on one of his diving trips in the 1990s, spurring him to quit his job at a German cement company.

Fishermen in parts of Indonesia, such as East Sulawesi, dive in shallow waters without oxygen tanks in search of seafood and occasionally stumble on the odd treasure, he said.

Their ceramic samples led to his finds in 1997 of a 10th-century vessel, known as the Intan Wreck, in the Java Sea and a 15th-century ship, the Maranei/Bakau Wreck, near Belitung island, off southeastern Sumatra, the next year. Soon after, he found the Tang treasure near Buton island off southeast Sulawesi.

Intan yielded thousands of Chinese ceramics, Indonesian gold jewelry, bronze artifacts and Arabian glassware, while Maranei/Bakau held a mixed cargo from the Ming dynasty.

"All the ships found in Indonesian waters were representing actually the time capsules of those periods," said Walterfang, who is married with five children in New Zealand.

'TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE'

Walterfang's slides of the Tang Treasure showed glittering gold cups and plates, a Chinese-inscripted bronze mirror, white glazed stoneware and a tall green vase with a dragon lid.

Some initially questioned the value of the finds as many were corroded and covered by limestone or coral, he said. "The scientific and academic community just didn't know how to handle it because it was just too good to be true that there was such a cargo from the Tang dynasty."

Walterfang shrugged off advice that the artifacts be auctioned immediately, choosing to ship all the cargo to New Zealand for conservation, in a costly, six-year process. "I decided to go to New Zealand, far away from the media, far away from the world and tourists, to conserve it first."

Specialists restored artifacts with chemicals injected millimeter-by-millimeter under microscopes, he said. They spent four years and $350,000 to conserve one silver flask alone.

The Maranei/Bakau Wreck is still under conservation in New Zealand and will end up in a future Bali maritime museum, he said. The Intan Wreck has been handed back to Indonesia as part of compensation for the Tang Treasure, which will be exhibited soon at the Hua Song Museum in Singapore.

Walterfang said he also gave Jakarta $2.5 million plus a deal to help conserve some of the existing finds and cover the costs of sending four Indonesians for conservation training abroad.
 

Horst H. Liebner [email protected] +62.411.50.50.30.7; +62.81.51.09.17.33.1 Tenaga Ahli Bidang Budaya dan Sejarah Bahari Expert Staf, Maritime Culture and History Pusat Riset Wilyah Laut dan Sumber Daya Non Hayati Research Centre for Sea Territories and Non-Living Resources Badan Riset Kelautan dan Perikanan, Dep.

Kelautan dan Perikanan RI Agency for Marine and Fisheries Research, Dep. of Marine Affairs and Fisheries RI Jl. Letjen M.T. Hartono Kav. 52-53, Jakarta 12770, Indonesia +62.(0)21.791.80.303 ext 4032; (fax) +62.(0)21.791.80.458/9 PO Box 4130 JKP 10041, Indonesia Jakarta,

12/03/2006 Indonesian and international press (i.e. Jakarta Post, March 09, 2006; ANN, March 10, 2006) reported on the detention of the German Fred Dobberphul and the French citizen Jean-Paul Blancan by the Indonesian police on March 8, 2006, in connection with an accusation of “allegedly stealing ancient artefacts worth millions of dollars from shipwrecks in waters off West Java” [Jakarta Post]. As regards these reports, we would like to inform you on the following:

1. The “shipwrecks in waters off West Java” in question here obviously refers to the excavation of an Indonesian vessel of the second halve of the 10th century found by fishermen in 2003, 60 nautical miles North off Cirebon, Java. This scientifically conducted excavation started in 2004 based on the survey license

B.26/Men-KP/I/2004, January 21, 2004, and the salvage license B.59/Men-KP/II/2004, February 19, 2004, both issued by the Indonesian Department for Marine Affairs and Fisheries on behalf of the National Committee for Cargo Items of Sunken Vessels (PANNAS BMKT – ‘Panitia Nasional Benda asal Muantan Kapal Tenggelam’), and on recommendations issued by eleven (!) Indonesian ministries and institutions, in complete accord with the valid regulations and any legally binding frameworks. Hence, the operations in question here are an entirely legal activity, which, besides, is conducted in close co-operation between Indonesian and international scientists and institutions (see, e.g., the attached statement by the Musée Royale de Mariemont, Belgium, one of the affiliates of this excavation).

2. Fred Dobberphul as well as Jean-Paul Blancan are scientific divers of world-standing, who in the recent years have been employed in dozens of underwater excavations, besides others in the archaeological campaigns in the ‘sunken cities’ of Heraklion, Alexandria and Abukir, Egypt, and the scientific excavation of the Spanish caravel ‘San Diego’ in the Philippines. They were employed by the Jakarta based holder of the licenses mentioned above, PT Paradigma Putera Sejahtera, as chief divers, and were in charge of supervising the underwater operations. Both individuals have been granted all necessary immigration papers, working permits and other necessary certificates. It should be underlined, that any participation in illegal activities –the layman’s image of ‘looting underwater treasures’– would be far from their line of work as scientific divers.

3. Leading historians and archaeologists have characterised this find as one of the most important archaeological discoveries of this decade which will positively elucidate our knowledge of Asia’s trade and politics in the 10th century. We therefore clearly question the reported statement by National Police spokesman Brig. Gen. Anton Bachrul Alam “that the ceramics are from the Tang Dynasty era in China during the period (AD) 618 to 906” [Jakarta Post].
Preliminary evaluation of the results of the field campaign on the mentioned site referred to here points onto a timeframe between ca.960CE and 990CE, thus the later [Chinese] epoch of the ‘Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms’ and the Early Northern Sung period, and the [Indonesian] era of Úrîvijaya and the early East Javan reigns. 4. Allegations that “earlier on Wednesday several local people living by the sea said the two foreigners had brought out many ceramics from under the sea.

The people then alerted nearby police” [Jakarta Post] have –until the publication of the mentioned news– never been content of any of the previous accusations made against this project and the two scientific divers mentioned above. It is well known, that certain individuals in key positions in Indonesia’s economic and political scaffolds right from the start tried to obstruct this completely legal scientific project, very possibly with the aim to gain control over the excavated artefacts. These individuals since 2004 stage a campaign which end January 2006 culminated in the forced termination of conservation and restoration of the artefacts, since the end of the field campaign in October 2005 stored in a Jakartan warehouse for desalinisation and further preservation, and the confiscation of about 400 scientific samples of timbers, metal, various chemical substances and others awaiting further evaluation and analysis in a field laboratory in Jakarta on March 08, 2006, on the allegation that the licenses issued by the Indonesian authorities mentioned above are illegal.
However, all assessments of the legality of these licenses conducted by leading national authorities have clearly proven that these allegations are completely unwarranted, and the impedimenta regarding further conservation and restoration as well as the confiscation of the artefacts are evidently a violation of all authoritative Indonesian laws. We therefore suspect that these latest accusations are advanced to continue the mentioned campaign, but in our mere role as scientists clearly have to refrain from any comments regarding the political and legal background of these altercations. We herewith would like to entreat, that further media coverage of the mentioned incidents be carried out according to established journalistic standards, i.e., a thorough appraisal of the actual circumstances and facts. We, too, would like to implore you to voice our sincere trepidations concerning the state of the archaeological artefacts which since more than a month could not anymore be handled according to scientific and conservational standards: It clearly has to be feared, that further prolongation of the unsolved sate and detention of the artefacts will destroy the objects, and thus will be most detrimental for our knowledge of Our World’s Historic Heritage. It should be noted, that we, of course, repeatedly forwarded this appeal in form of formal requests to all involved authorities, but until now did not receive any answer what-so-ever. Respectfully yours,

Horst Liebner
 

Horst H. Liebner [email protected] +62.411.50.50.30.7; +62.81.51.09.17.33.1 Expert Staff, Maritime Culture and History Research Centre for Sea Territories and Non-Living Resources Agency for Marine and Fisheries Research, Dep. of Marine Affairs and Fisheries RI Jl. Letjen M.T. Haryono Kav. 52-53, Jakarta 12770, Indonesia +62.(0)21.791.80.303 ext 4032; (fax) +62.(0)21.791.80.458/9 PO Box 4130 JKP 10041, Indonesia Jakarta, 19/03/2006

Open Note to His Excellency The President of the Republic of Indonesia Istana Negara, Jakarta Dear Mr. President, Since the confiscation of scientific samples originating from the Java Sea excavation, 60 nautical miles North off Cirebon, on March 06, 2006, and the detention of two foreign scientific divers involved in this excavation on March 09, 2006, a daily increasing international press reaction concerning these litigations has to be monitored; please find attached several publications of last week in leading German and French media.

I would like to call to Your attention, that a French TV team only on Sunday left Jakarta with their report on the case to be released in French TV news and magazines, and that several other French and German magazines and electronic media are planning to send own investigators to cover the story in their next issues – hence, international reports on this case will expand significantly.

Main attention of the reports will in all probability concentrate on the alleged illegality of the excavation stated by Indonesia’s Police spokesman on March 10, 2006, and expose speculations on the background of the accusations brought forward. The fact that these charges arose only now, after the field campaign of a project which commenced in 2004 was concluded and the artefacts are salvaged and partially treated, will clearly attract special attention; the same will apply to the fact that several leading national media withdrew their uncommented reports on the Indonesian Police’s statements directly after the first reactions by the involved embassies and national administrative bodies. A yet further issue will be the handling of the artefacts confiscated by the police.

The legality of the administrative process of issuing the compulsory licenses for this excavation has been proven by a number of legal assessments by leading national experts, and international press reports stress that both foreign divers held all necessary permits and certifications. Not surprisingly, the detention of the two scientific divers has been called “arbitrary” by their embassies: Besides sending formal notes of protest, both ambassadors on Friday, March 17, 2006, in person (!) presented their sincere protests at Indonesia’s Department of Foreign Affairs. Even before this visit and pertaining to the forte of the diplomatic note, French press already reported of a crise diplomatique – thus, subsequent media coverage in all probability will convey the impression, that bilateral relations between Indonesia and the two countries in question are presently impaired.

Conjectures around the background of the case published in national and international media suggest the existence of feats of “corruption in high levels” [e.g., AFP, March 17, 2006, quoting a source], apparently aiming at control over the valuable artefacts. As a scientist, I clearly have to refrain from comments on these suppositions, but would like to draw to Your kind attention recent reports in several venerable national media which openly relate these indictments.

The discovery of this wreck has been repeatedly described –by press and scientists alike– as one of the major archaeological finds of the recent years, which will shed new light on Indonesia’s and the World’s history. The forced discontinuation of conservation and restoration of the unearthed artefacts and the capricious treatment of the scientific samples confiscated by the police clearly questions the consciousness and conscientiousness of Indonesia’s security forces regarding items of their very own cultural heritage, and the awareness of the nation as a whole a propos her cultural and historic inheritance. In recent communications I took the liberty to call to the attention of all involved parties the fact, that a substantial quantity of the confiscated items will decompose in a very short time if not handled appropriately and thus eradicate an as yet unattained opportunity to increase our knowledge on Indonesia’s role in World History. Undoubtedly, the loss of these items will not only be a loss to Indonesia, but will bereave mankind as a whole of Our Collective Legacy. It has to be perturbed, that prolonged publications in international media regarding the points mentioned above will be most disadvantageous for Indonesia’s standing and repute in the family of nations. Not only will arise questions around diplomatic incongruities, but, also, on the collateral of investments in a country where the legality of any lawfully granted licenses could be at stake at any given moment, i.e., the consistency of the general legal framework of Indonesia.
Without doubt, enquiries on possible individuals ‘behind the scenes’ will stir uncertainties regarding the conclusive authority of the present administration. Last but not least, a discussion around the approach presented by the Indonesian police in respect of items of cultural heritage will probe the reputation of Indonesia as a cultured nation. Facing these circumstances, I am convinced, Mr. President, that you will precipitously resolve this situation, now since more than two months pending, in the best interest of Indonesia. With all due respect,

I remain, Respectfully yours,

Horst Liebner Expert Staff,
Maritime Culture and History Research Centre for Sea Territories and Non- Living Resources
 

Confusion sinks salvage operation The Jakarta Post, Jakarta Salvaging sunken treasure is already a technically complicated operation. In Indonesia, such work is made all the more challenging by government bodies and regulations that often send mixed messages to companies eager to plumb the depths in search of lost treasures.

A recent example concerns the MV Siren, a ship that was confiscated by police while involved in salvaging sunken treasure off the coast of Cirebon in West Java. Police also confiscated all of the items recovered from the sea by the ship, and arrested several crew members, including two foreign nationals, for "illegally plundering Indonesia's natural resources". While the police are confident they did their duty in enforcing the law, a member of the national committee authorized to vet all companies interested in salvaging treasures in Indonesian waters sees things differently.

Hasyim Zaini says the ship, belonging to PT Paradigma Putra Sejahtera (PT PPS) and Belgium-based Cosmix CPRL, met all of the requirements and obtained all the necessary documents for its work in Cirebon. "In the history of treasure recovery in Indonesia, the salvage operation in Cirebon had the most complete documents and the best salvaging procedures. It makes no sense for the police to confiscate the ship," he said. The head of the Navy command overseeing the Java Sea and parts of Kalimantan and Sumatra, Commodore Jurianto, also confirmed that his office, which is a member of the national committee, had issued the necessary permits to PT PPS and Cosmix to recover the sunken treasure. "As far as the permits are concerned, the ship obtained all of the documents," Jurianto said.

After a month-long survey of the area, PT PPS was convinced a huge treasure lay on the ocean's floor about 70 miles off the Cirebon coast. The company applied for a salvage permit in January 2004 to the National Committee on Sunken Treasures, which comprises 11 different government agencies and is chaired by the maritime affairs and fisheries minister. In addition to officials from the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, the committee also includes officials from the Education Ministry, the Navy, the Transportation Ministry, the Tourism and Culture Ministry, the Foreign Ministry and the Trade Ministry. Under a 2000 presidential decree on sunken treasure, the committee assesses all companies applying for permits to recover sunken treasure. It then issues a recommendation to the maritime affairs minister, who then decides whether to issue a permit. "Each body (on the committee) required PT PPS to complete technical assessments having to do with that body's area of expertise, such as whether the salvage operation would harm the environment or if the ship was capable of carrying out the project," Hasyim said.
The National Police and the Attorney General's Office are not represented on the committee. The committee issued a recommendation Feb. 16, 2004, stating that PT PPS had satisfied all requirements, and the maritime affairs minister issued the company a salvage permit Feb. 19. PT PPS, which hired several foreign experts for the operation, began work off the coast of Cirebon in April 2004, and in October 2005 announced the end of its operation. In total, the company recovered over 490,000 pieces of ceramic, gold coins, glassware and other materials dating back to China's fifth dynasty. The items were reportedly lost when in the 10th century a ship sank while sailing from the capital of Sriwijaya Kingdom (now Palembang, South Sumatra) to Singosari in what is now East Java. Of the items recovered, it was determined 76,000 of the pieces could be restored and sold at auction.
All of the materials were placed in a warehouse in Tangerang and a safe-deposit box with Bank Mandiri. In October 2005, representatives of Christie's auction house visited the warehouse and agreed to organize an auction of the materials in Amsterdam in December this year. Experts estimated the total value of the pieces could reach US$40 million. Despite having the proper permits, police confiscated the materials and the ship in January. Earlier this month they arrested a German citizen, identified as Fred Dobberphul, and a French citizen, identified as Jean-Paul Blancan, for "involvement in an illegal salvage operation". "We are investigating them for illegally salvaging protected natural resources.
They have violated the 1990 law on the conservation of natural resources. We have confiscated all of the materials recovered from the sea," National Police spokesman Brig. Gen. Anton Bachrul Alam said. The Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry has sent a letter to the police asking them to halt the investigation and release the salvaged items and the detained foreign nationals. In the letter, the ministry says the salvage operation was legal and the recovered materials belong to the state.

However, National Police chief Gen. Sutanto said the investigation would continue unless the Attorney General's Office ordered its halt. "We are still waiting for an interdepartmental solution. We hope this will be settled soon because we are worried the value of the salvaged items could drop," Hasyim said. (JP/Abdul Khalik) Bribery ensures spoils go to the treasure hunters The Jakarta Post/Jakarta During the last 20 years, there have been dozens of legal and illegal salvage operations to recover ancient treasures from shipwrecks in Indonesian waters. Experts estimate that hundreds of thousands of pieces of ancient ceramics, gold coins and glassware, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, have been removed from the country's seas. With so much money being made by the treasure hunters, Indonesia has officially only received Rp 26.7 billion (US$2.9 million) for what should be a state asset. "We handed over around Rp 27 billion to the Finance Ministry recently. We hope we can give more to the state in the future," said Ali Supardan, a senior official at the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry.

The first major discovery of an ancient shipwreck occurred in 1985, when an expedition of foreign and local companies found thousands of pieces of ancient ceramic in the sea near the Heliputan islands in Riau. Experts estimated the items were worth at least US$17.5 million. However, the state received nothing from the find when the recovered items were shipped overseas and sold at auction.

In 1999, another salvage project involving local and foreign companies recovered thousands of ancient ceramic pieces in the Gelasa Strait near the Bangka-Belitung islands in Sumatra. The government received less than $300,000 from this discovery, despite estimates that the treasure was worth millions of dollars.

A 1992 presidential decree stipulates the proceeds from any treasures recovered from Indonesian waters will be evenly split by the state and the salvage company or companies. One senior government official, who asked not to be identified, said salvage companies preferred to bribe the necessary officials rather than pay the state. "If a salvage company knows it will get millions of dollars from a sunken ship, it will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars bribing high-ranking officials to avoid paying the state," he told The Jakarta Post.

In 1998, German treasure hunter Tilman Walterfang found over 60,000 pieces of ancient Chinese ceramic dating to between the 7th and 10th centuries, near the Bangka-Belitung islands. The discovery was praised as one of the most important ever in Asia, as it helped archeologists understand the ancient trade route known as the "Silk Road of the sea". While the recovered materials were valued at about $80 million, Walterfang ended up paying Indonesia only $2.5 million in cash plus a number of unsold pieces.

To avoid paying the state its share of the treasure, Walterfang, who was reportedly financed by Matthias Dragger, a wealthy heir to Germany's Dragger family fortune, and his affluent brother-in-law Hans Michael Jebsen, director and co-owner of Jebsen & Co., a leading Hong Kong-based trading company, allegedly bribed several high-ranking officials in the Defense Ministry and the Navy. German publication Der Spiegel, in its Jan. 30, 2006, edition, reported that Walterfang sold most of the ceramic pieces to the Singapore government in 2005 for $32 million, while taking recovered gold pieces to Germany and a large part of the remaining ceramics to New Zealand. "We are still investigating the case. Unfortunately, all of the ship's crew, including the German, has left Indonesia. We are trying to trace him to find out why the state received so little," a police officer close to the investigation told the Post.

(Abdul Khalik) Ancient treasures lie beneath Indonesian seas Abdul Khalik, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta In the last two weeks, the Navy and National Police have seized several ships carrying ancient ceramics and glassware -- treasure salvaged from shipwrecks in the South China Sea, the Thousands Islands in North Jakarta and off the coast of Cirebon, West Java. The Navy on March 11 confiscated four ships believed to have illegally salvaged over 260 pieces of ancient ceramic from the South China Sea, several miles off the coast of Pontianak in West Kalimantan, and arrested 26 suspects, including the ship's owner, divers and crew members. Several days earlier, the Navy apprehended another ship and arrested 17 seamen. The ship, which was about to leave Indonesian waters, was carrying hundreds of antique pieces of ceramic. The most controversial seizure was the National Police's of the MV Sirens in Marunda, North Jakarta, on Jan. 1. The ship, which belongs to PT PPS and a Belgium-based salvaging company, Cosmix, was confiscated after it was alleged it had been used to illegally salvage ancient items from the waters off the Cirebon coast last year. Subsequently, the police found thousands of antique ceramics in a warehouse in Tangerang used by PT PPS, and arrested several seamen and divers, including a French and a German diver.

Although experts are still calculating the value of the South China Sea and Thousands Islands hauls, the ancient materials taken from the Cirebon coast are thought to be valued at around US$40 million. Prior to the seizure, Christie's auction house had reportedly agreed to organize an auction for the materials in Amsterdam in December. The artifacts found in these three areas, however, are only a tiny part of the total treasures though to lie beneath Indonesia's waters. According to the latest research by the Navy and the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, there are at least 463 shipwrecks -- some over a 1,000 years old -- scattered throughout the country's seas. It is also possible the actual number is even higher, as international experts have said that between the 7th and 18th centuries thousands of ships sank in what are now Indonesian waters "If the state can get roughly an average of $10 million from each wreck, then imagine how much money the treasures would contribute to the state budget," M. Hasyim Zaini, a senior official at the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, told The Jakarta Post recently. And $10 million could be a very modest estimate.

The biggest discovery so far of sunken treasure in Indonesia was valued at $80 million. In 1998, Tilman Walterfang, a German treasure hunter, found over 60,000 artifacts -- ceramics, coins and glassware -- in a 7th to 10th century wreck that dated back to China's Tang Dynasty, in waters near the Bangka-Belitung islands in Sumatra. According to German newspaper Der Spiegel, Walterfang sold most of the ancient ceramics to the Singapore government in 2005 for $32 million. He took the gold artifacts to Germany and the rest of the ancient ceramics to New Zealand. Late last year, Walterfang managed to persuade the Indonesian government to accept just $2.5 million and the artifacts he had been unable to sell.

Current law rules that the state is entitled to 50 percent of the value of any salvaged treasure, yet the Indonesian government settled for a fraction of what Walterfang owed. "So far, shipwreck treasures have contributed only Rp 27 billion to the state's coffers. We're still having a lot of problems with illegal salvaging and thefts. And we lack the expertise, equipment and capital needed to salvage treasure. We need the involvement of local and foreign companies to get the most out of the sunken materials," Hasyim said. Locations of 463 known shipwrecks No. Location Number of wrecks

1. Bangka Strait 7
2. Belitung 9
3. Gaspar Strait, South Sumatra 5
4. South Karimata 3
5. Riau Sea 17
6. Malaka Strait 37
7. Thousand Islands, North Jakarta 18
8. Central Java waters 9
9. Karimun Jawa Island, Central Java 14
10. Madura Strait 5
11. East and West Nusa Tenggara 8
12. Pelabuhan Ratu waters, West Java 134
13. Makassar Strait 8
14. Cilacap waters, Central Java 51
15. Arafuru waters, Maluku 57
16. Ambon and Buru waters 13
17. Halmahera and Tidore waters 16
18. Morotai waters 7
19. Tomini Bay, North Sulawesi 3
20. Papua waters 31
21. Enggano island, Sumatra 11

Total 463
Source: Navy, Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry
 

Hi Doc

Don't you ever sleep, I'm on the otherside of the world but you always seem to be awake!!!


Regards

Mike
 

All very interesting about the ships that were lost over the last 1,000 years or so around Indonesian waters,.,..,but who has bothered to look for the 72 ships I have in my list that left Asian Ports,just ahead of the Japs as they came down from Hong Kong,laden with over 4,000 tons of gold and silver ,all owned by Chinese families and destined for Australia in 1942.They had so much cargo on them,there were 44 gallon drums filled with gold and silver as deck cargo ,and all were sunk by Jap aircraft and naval units.My list has the names and locations of all 72 vessels,still out in waters not so deep,.,..,I wonder if anyone in Indonesia will go after them,,.,.if they only knew where they were hehehehehehe,..

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