Indian Sign or What?

[Bigcypresshunter]

I noticed something on the ground last week near the eastern entrance to the Big Cypress National Park next to the Miccosuki Indian Reservation where I work. Im pretty sure this was left by an Indian but it could be Santeria or anything else. It appears to be some non-native Christmas tree type of pine needles placed in a circle. Circle of life? In the center are some burnt herbs wrapped in leaves tied with yarn. The Miccosukis are big on native herbal medicines and they are a secretive group. Does anybody know what this means?

 

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[Breezie]

BCH, It is a Native American 'cleansing' ritual, known as 'smudging,' generally performed by the healer. The burning of sage promotes purification. Other plants can be used, and in our area, we use tobacco, and in low country of SC, they generally use Sweetgrass. My ancestors(both matenral & paternal) are not Miccosuki, but are Chowan & Choctaw. I have a tintype photo of my ggrandmother in her Native American ensemble, which is one of my most precious keepsakes. Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Miccosukis were originally from Georgia but Im not sure of their tribal bloodline. Anything else you can tell me about this? Cleansing for whom? Is a healer a medicine man? How often is it done? Did I disturb it?

 

[Breezie]

Miccosukis are originally from Georgia but Im not sure of their tribal origins. Anything else you can tell me about this?Presently it is not "just" a ritual used by Native Americans. Now many 'earthy' (only expression I could think of at this time) people do the same thing. I went to a party a few years ago, and the hostess had sage burning in a smuge pot. Cleansing for whom?The cleansing was for whomever that needed cleansing; generally this person was getting ready to enbark on a journey, a hunt, or moving to a new place, etc. Is a healer a medicine man?It doesn't have to be; the medicine man can appoint a healer. How often is it done?It not on any type of schedule, but as often as you want to do. Did I disturb it?Probably not because they left it behind after they finished their ceremony. Since it was burnt, if was finished. I hope it was okay to answer your questions within your quote; I wanted to make sure I answered all of them. Breezie

 

[jimbob450]

The green boughs look to be cedar. Jimbob

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The burning of sage promotes purification. Breezie

It may not even be an Indian. Thanks. It was not far from the main road. Are you sure its sage? It had no odor when I smelled it.

 

[Breezie]

The burning of sage promotes purification. Breezie

It may not even be an Indian. Thanks. It was not far from the main road. Are you sure its sage? It had no odor when I smelled it.

BCH, I really can't tell from the photo if it is sage or not, but sage is generally what is used. No matter what herb/plant was burned, I still think it was for smudging. The smoke from burning sage (light, then extinguish, then allow to smoke/smolder) reminds me of burning leaves, which is much in the air during the Fall months. Here's a website of various herbs/plants used for smudging.
http://www.cherokeepublications.net/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=20
Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Cedar, sage, smudge smoke and solved.

 

[Tony in SC]

BCH, It is a Native American 'cleansing' ritual, known as 'smudging,' generally performed by the healer. The burning of sage promotes purification. Other plants can be used, and in our area, we use tobacco, and in low country of SC, they generally use Sweetgrass. My ancestors(both matenral & paternal) are not Miccosuki, but are Chowan & Choctaw. I have a tintype photo of my ggrandmother in her Native American ensemble, which is one of my most precious keepsakes. Breezie

That Brezzie knows some stuff!! I had a Creek great grandma from Georgia that still did this when I was a kid. She used sage mixed with rabbitt tobacco. The cleansing could be done only once a year for someone who had done something wrong. (I got smoked up alot) Usually it was done for a personal journey like a long trip, marriage or even surgery. My other Great Grandma, a Cherokee, Didn't believe in that stuff. Tony

 

[Breezie]

author=Tony in SC:
That Brezzie knows some stuff!! I had a Creek great grandma from Georgia that still did this when I was a kid. She used sage mixed with rabbitt tobacco. The cleansing could be done only once a year for someone who had done something wrong. (I got smoked up alot) Usually it was done for a personal journey like a long trip, marriage or even surgery. My other Great Grandma, a Cherokee, Didn't believe in that stuff. Tony

Thanks Tony for the kudos. Now that it is solved, I guess we can veer from the subject somewhat. My ggrandmama, who's tintype I have, was born on a Reservation off Hwy. 97 in NC. We are not quite sure which tribe(many think Cherokee) since it was not 'in vogue' to be an Indian during that time, and most lied on the censuses. Her rituals were more in predicting weather and interpreting dreams. At any rate, I ended up with all the physical characteristics including the eyes. I guess De Soto was right back during the 1540's when he wrote about the NC Coastal Indians having unusual blue eyes, and lighter skin. Going to one of our family reunions and looking at noses, would remind you of a room full of '58 Pontiac hood ornaments! LOL

 

[Dig em all]

i think mexican voodoo this was in a park in Bridgeport, CT.

 

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OMG! YOU TOUCHED IT!!!!!
O.K. don't panic but now you have been cursed. What you need to do is send me $99.99 and I will lift the curse but this needs to be done quick or it will be too late. Take a deep breath and P.M. me your Visa number and we'll get this fixed for good.
Dave.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I noticed something on the ground last week near the eastern entrance to the Big Cypress National Park next to the Miccosuki Indian Reservation where I work. Im pretty sure this was left by an Indian but it could be Santeria or anything else. It appears to be some non-native Christmas tree type of pine needles placed in a circle. Circle of life? In the center are some burnt herbs wrapped in leaves tied with yarn. The Miccosukis are big on native herbal medicines and they are a secretive group. Does anybody know what this means?

LOL! SACRED SAGE to keep out "two legged invaders"; putting "Circle of Protection" around Tribal Land in ALL directions, North, South, East, West; in OTHER words... KEEP OUT! STAY AWAY! They have SPOKEN!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

OMG! YOU TOUCHED IT!!!!!
O.K. don't panic but now you have been cursed. What you need to do is send me $99.99 and I will lift the curse but this needs to be done quick or it will be too late. Take a deep breath and P.M. me your Visa number and we'll get this fixed for good.
Dave.

LOL!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

buried treasure

 

[unclemac]

...lots of white folks these days either think they are native American or claim some distant ancestor was one. folks will also look something up on the internet and try to "mimic" that ritual. In any case, what you found meant something to someone who placed it there and out of respect, just leave it alone.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

...lots of white folks these days either think they are native American or claim some distant ancestor was one. folks will also look something up on the internet and try to "mimic" that ritual. In any case, what you found meant something to someone who placed it there and out of respect, just leave it alone.

This is an old post. Yes I took the pictures and left it alone.

...I also paid the 99 dollars to remove the curse and hadnt noticed any change in my bad luck. Should I send another check?