indian artifact?

[michiganman24]

hey my name is ty i found these 3 stones one is made of granet,and the other looks to be coarl and the small one i cant maby limerock ,they were all found in the same area in mid michigan and look almost eggshaped but perfectly
cirmetrical and polished...is anyone familer with theses i was thinking they might be Discoidal game balls please help...thank you i put some more pics up of my new finds

 

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[dugupfinds]

Hi from the UK.

These are naturally formed in the bottom of rivers when stones get stuck in a hollow.

I have found a few, & others have posted similar stones on the forum.

 

[trikikiwi]

Hi Ty, Kia Ora, I have to agree with Dugfinds, they look like river stones. Awesome finds, I really like the balancing art work.
Interesting that there is 3 different types - how can you explain that?
Cheers, Mike

 

[michiganman24]

well where these were found were near a few mounds in mid michigan river rock i dont know maby, the pic dont rellay show how perfectly 2 stones are almost identical, ive hear of a american indian gambling game
kinda like botchy ball and it is unlikely the were natruly formed in that
coral is not native to michigan,this area also has been where known trade routes came together for thousands of years.......ive seen some of these river rock you are talking and most ive seen are not perfect..oh and ya like that rock artwork....thanks and post back

 

[slingchine]

Hello Ty, I don't know for certain, but I have seen "Mono" stones that are very similar (a "mono" stone is an Indian grain grinding stone, like what you would call a mortar & pestle) A "mono" is the hand held grinder stone, and the "matate" is the stone bowl where one would grind the grain, wheat, etc. These stones are very prevalent in almost all of the different tribes within the native American Indian cultures. Just a possibility IMO.

Get a good buzz going
Slingchine

 

[Kiros32]

Hello Ty, I don't know for certain, but I have seen "Mono" stones that are very similar (a "mono" stone is an Indian grain grinding stone, like what you would call a mortar & pestle) A "mono" is the hand held grinder stone, and the "matate" is the stone bowl where one would grind the grain, wheat, etc. These stones are very prevalent in almost all of the different tribes within the native American Indian cultures. Just a possibility IMO.

Get a good buzz going
Slingchine

If they are grinding stones there will be use marks on them. Study them closely for parallel scrapes, nicks, etc.

 

[CarolinaDigs]

Being the Indian artifact expert that I am LOL LOL Really though, I to have found these round rocks on my family farm where there is also a lot of arrowheads and other relics. They may have been very well formed in a river bed but Indians took these and play games with them some small and some larger . Now if I could only remember what the name of these games were also they could be a grounding stone of sorts. My stones used for grounding grain are actually fairly smooth

 

[CarolinaDigs]

Yes Montana, but at one time an Indian held these in his hands

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Without fingerprints that would be tough to prove. But, if you believe . . .

 

[michiganman24]

well yeaster day i went hunting in the same area again and i found another one of theses turkey egg shaped stones and i also found an indian paint stone along with a few circle shaped hammerstones and also a weard shaped bone almost looks like a knife i will put pics up if yall would like...thanks ty

 

[TreasureTales]

well yeaster day i went hunting in the same area again and i found another one of theses turkey egg shaped stones and i also found an indian paint stone along with a few circle shaped hammerstones and also a weard shaped bone almost looks like a knife i will put pics up if yall would like...thanks ty

When I was much younger, I took a couple of courses at the local community college that related to American Indian archaeology. The two classes were taught by different instructors at different times. Each one of the instructors said that some native potters used smooth and egg-shape stones for putting a finished surface on their pottery just prior to firing. Where did they get those smooth and egg-shape stones? Not from riverbeds and not from making them. We were told that they came from the gizzards of dinosaurs and were passed down from one generation of women to the next. You may believe this story or not, that's up to you. But it could pull together all the facts posted in various messages in this topic. The stones in the gizzards (or crops) of the dinosaurs were used much as gizzards and crops in today's birds - to help grind up food since birds don't have teeth and some of the dinosaurs didn't have teeth - they had beaks.

 

[Montana Jim]

TT - Interesting enough to make me Google it...

http://www.nvo.com/louisvuitton/fif...ml?profile=fiftymillionyearoldcatalog&UID=107

I will add that NONE of the pictures gizzard stones are round in this photo... but, what a fascinating concept.

 

[trikikiwi]

Kia Ora, Hi Ty
and other posters.
I apologise beforehand for following Montana Jim down a different track. But the mention of gizzard stones reminded me of our (sadly extinct) Moa.
Check this link for a brief education on this incredible bird, its skeletons are found with gizzard stones.
http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/moagiant.html
Cheers, Mike

 

[trikikiwi]

Crikey!
I just read that linked site properly.
Don't believe a thing they say about the 'kiwi' male!!
We don't sit on eggs
We're ALL macho men over here 8)
shootin', hootin', and something else but I've forgotten how to do it
Cheers

 

[Monty]

When I was a small lad about two hundred years ago my Dad had laying chickens. He would look for rocks similarly shaped to put under an old hen who wouldn't stay on the nest. She thought it was eggs so she would sit on them and lay the rest of her eggs along side. That way we wouldn't have to go find where she made a nest and layed her eggs out in the farmyard. I don't thik that's what these stones are, but they would work for that purpose just fine. Monty

 

[CarolinaDigs]

These are Indian artifacts! I have one just like the second one in your picture and it was found at a known Indian site in my area, and no river was there.
HH

Thank you junkmetal > I so agree. I found some the other day at my home farm, and have found many in the past years where other relics were found >Ancient Indian Village site. The Indians were very resourceful. Regardless of where they found their round stones they used them for games, food preparation, even heating the stones to keep warm or place on pulled muscles , one practice still in use today, is warming the stones and placing on the back to help relieve back pain.

 

[steve71]

looks like indian artifacts simular to the ones we dig from middens in TX.manos hammer stones.most in this forum wouldnt know.you could have them sent to an authetictor.i say 2 out of 3 are artifacts.realy need to see them in person to know forsure.i have a few more than this i'll try and get a pic. later

 

[eathabs]

I live next to the Susquehanna river and could get a handful of them by just bending over and picking up rocks. If they were found in an area that had no river stones then they could be artifacts. If they were found within a few miles of a river they are just rocks.

"Gizzard stones" of dinosaurs are typically white as they are made of calcium. If I can find the ones I have I will post them.

 

[michiganman24]

i found some more stuff check um out and tell me what ya think

 

[trikikiwi]

Kia Ora Ty,
those new finds are each worth a Post of their own.
I think we can safely say, they ain't gizzard, nor river stones.
When all put together, it looks like you've found a site of early occupation of your country.
Very real treasure!
Well done, Cheers, Mike