ID on two tiny brass/gold colored "coins"

[Don in SJ]

While finishing up cataloging a friends inherited collection of coins/tokens and medals, I came upon two of the smallest coins I have ever handled. Guess they are Middle Eastern, but have no idea. Most of the collection was from 1860s and earlier, so assuming that is the time frame of these two identical "coins".

One photo is with a three cent piece for an idea how small they are. The are only stamped on one side with the impression showing thru on the back side.

Anyone can solve this, I have no world coin books, so totally in the dark on this. I assume they are small stamped brass coins or tokens.

Don

 

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[HuntinDog]

They remind me of belly dancer coins

 

[GpSnoopy]

Could they be gypsy or Belly Dancer coins/charms?

They seem to come in a wide variety of patterns and styles.

EDIT: I see HuntinDog had the same idea......

 

[Don in SJ]

With the small size I think not a chance, there would be no noise emitted from clanging together. They are only 12.5mm in diameter. Wanted to add, I do think they might be Persian like the charms.

As far as dating, this collection seems to have only a few items from the early 1900s, believe 1919 was the latest dated item, but hundreds of items from 1860s up to a 1500s French Jetton.

 

[HuntinDog]

Are they the same on both sides??
Thin stamped or thicker pressed like a coin??

 

[Don in SJ]

Not like a coin, they are very thin, like I said in my original post, the stamped area shows thru on the other side. A U.S three cent piece measures 0.6mm thickness and these are 0.5mm thickness. No big deal if do not find out, just trying to ID some of the odd ball foreign coins in the collection, there are other small ones, just not that small, but those are definite coins so should be able to ID them if I get lucky.

 

[CRUSADER]

I agree with others, that they are not coin/tokens but some kind of jewelry.

 

[Don in SJ]

Regardless if a charm/token, whatever, it would be nice to know if it is a representation of a coin, just like there are "coin" buttons, etc. That is the reason I had hoped it would show in a world coin book, not necessarily the items I posted but the design so I can say what it represents, if anything........................I am cataloging which involves more identity than just saying it is a charm or some kind of jewelry if possible.

 

[GpSnoopy]

Ethnic charms come in all sizes. These ones are listed as 10mm in diameter. Thin stamped brass.

Have been looking at the world coin catalogue to find a match to an existing coin this may be patterned after, but no luck sofar.

Coin Charms Brass Coin Stampings Belly Dancing by BeachCastleBeads

 

[CRUSADER]

Regardless if a charm/token, whatever, it would be nice to know if it is a representation of a coin, just like there are "coin" buttons, etc. That is the reason I had hoped it would show in a world coin book, not necessarily the items I posted but the design so I can say what it represents, if anything........................I am cataloging which involves more identity than just saying it is a charm or some kind of jewelry if possible.

It might be difficult to match because they are offen coin 'like', but not the same as any existing. Although you might be able to say it's close to a....

 

[Mackaydon]

Don in SJ:
I can't help you on this one but look forward to seeing other unidentified 'coins' you are attempting to ID.
Don.....

 

[Don in SJ]

Don in SJ:
I can't help you on this one but look forward to seeing other unidentified 'coins' you are attempting to ID.
Don.....

I spent few hours today Iding the following, and only as of now stuck on one, that I think I am just worn out from googling so much. Probably Russia or Austrian. It has been neat seeing all the different coins this morning and finding out what they are.
1858 German Stae Hanover ½ Groschen
1869 Netherlands 10 cent
1866 Isabel II 40 Centimos Escudo
1816 Wilhelm III 1/6 Thaler
1849 Wilhelm IV 1 Groschen
1866 Peru 1/5 Sol
1859 Danish West Indies 5 cents
1824 Wilhelm 1 Siber Groschen
1877 Netherlands 10 cents
1864 Peru Lima 1 dime 2 ea.
1866 Peru Lima 1 dime
1850’s Napoleon III Speil Mark
1874 German 20 Pfennig
1808-33 Spanish Half Real
1815 Russia 5 Kopeks
1850 Switzerland 5 Rappen 2 ea.
1892 Columbia 50 Cent
1883 Switzerland 20 Rappen
1899 Brazil 100 Reis
1862 British 6 Pence

WW2 Red OPA War ration tokens 9 EA, one rare MM

These are just the ones I did today, several hundred others done last year, have about perhaps 50 more to go, Oriental/Mexican and Unk bigger foreign coins. The attached image is the last coin to be done for today. Whatever it is........

 

[Silver Searcher]

I spent few hours today Iding the following, and only as of now stuck on one, that I think I am just worn out from googling so much. Probably Russia or Austrian. It has been neat seeing all the different coins this morning and finding out what they are.
1858 German Stae Hanover ½ Groschen
1869 Netherlands 10 cent
1866 Isabel II 40 Centimos Escudo
1816 Wilhelm III 1/6 Thaler
1849 Wilhelm IV 1 Groschen
1866 Peru 1/5 Sol
1859 Danish West Indies 5 cents
1824 Wilhelm 1 Siber Groschen
1877 Netherlands 10 cents
1864 Peru Lima 1 dime 2 ea.
1866 Peru Lima 1 dime
1850’s Napoleon III Speil Mark
1874 German 20 Pfennig
1808-33 Spanish Half Real
1815 Russia 5 Kopeks
1850 Switzerland 5 Rappen 2 ea.
1892 Columbia 50 Cent
1883 Switzerland 20 Rappen
1899 Brazil 100 Reis
1862 British 6 Pence

WW2 Red OPA War ration tokens 9 EA, one rare MM

These are just the ones I did today, several hundred others done last year, have about perhaps 50 more to go, Oriental/Mexican and Unk bigger foreign coins. The attached image is the last coin to be done for today. Whatever it is........

That looks like a German coin of the free state Bremen.

SS

 

[Don in SJ]

That seems to be a match after googling that, Thanks.

Bremen 2 grote, 1739.