That is what Dr. Gramly said about this piece. I posted it long ago but took some better pics last night and emailed them to the guy who wrote the bipolar knapping articles I posted last week. He also wrote an article on a Venus figurine for the Pleistocene Coallition’s last issue, which is what I have long wanted this piece to be. What it actually is I have no idea. The guy I sent pics to wasn’t even sure it wasn’t natural and wasn’t seeing a Venus, but Doc Gramly did recognize it is worked, whatever it is. Notice the precarious balance, not thinking that could be an accident of nature, Any opinions are welcome, that is the fun of this type of thing.
I’d keep looking where you found that
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The inspiration for Pac-Man 🙂 just kidding. Looks natural too me.
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I wish I could capture tthe texture difference from the possibly water smoothed exterior to the rough interior feel where material was removed in my pics. It isn’t clear cut in pics but I think most would admit the sharp angles on the “back” don’t look entirely natural
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Sorry, it is natural stone.
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While I appreciate your opinion I hope you aren’t offended that I place more value in Dr. Gramly’s in hand assessment of the piece. Still only his opinion though, everyone is wrong sometimes. I hope you will at least leave it up for a little before hiding it in geofact
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I would say natural and it could have been tumbled in a river which also removed most of the material that created the split. Some of the material is still in the split and my guess would be that it is calcite, formed from water entering the split. JMO
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I believe the split is natural also, just a cool rock someone found and manipulated until it would balance on 5 sides. I’m not sure purely natural rocks could balance on the 3 small points of contact like this one does at that one angle, but anything is possible.
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It looks entirely natural to me also. As for the precarious balance, I don't think that primitive man would have shaped a rock just to get it to balance in an odd position. Nature, however, does it all the time.
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Maybe it's not a rock at all....
..Maybe it's a fossil!
..Maybe it's a fossil!
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Thanks for offering your opinion as such, obviously I disagree but I can see where you are coming from.
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Geeeeeezzzzzzzzz...
Mods PLEASE move this to the "Just a Rock" Forum.
Mods PLEASE move this to the "Just a Rock" Forum.
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So this Dr. Grimly stated this.
"I’d keep looking where you found that"
What does that state?
Could be the resume stuffed academia brushing off the less informed, but still maintains some politeness.
Though you hold his opinion in the highest regard.
Yet you won't be swayed on reading any other opinion.
Yet you post up what appears to be a natural forming rock (the general overall opinion) and ask for the readership's opinions.
This what confuses me to no end about this (and other similar past posts)
It's like the OP knows fully well an apple is an apple.
But posts up an image of a Granny apple.
"Could this be an orange?"
Then defends it to no end.
It's like some weird game to play with folks.
OBW I'm siding with the readership on their findings also.
Natural rock.
Cool, but not worked by man.
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Not an artifact, moving to Just Rock forum.
Fred we have been down this road several times already, so called potable art/rocks do NOT belong in this forum, you can post them in the Geofact or Just Rock forum, NOT our Indian artifact forum. There is not a even single sign of being worked by ancient man on your rock.
There is nothing Mother Nature can not do or make.
Fred we have been down this road several times already, so called potable art/rocks do NOT belong in this forum, you can post them in the Geofact or Just Rock forum, NOT our Indian artifact forum. There is not a even single sign of being worked by ancient man on your rock.
There is nothing Mother Nature can not do or make.
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More natural formations by mother nature.
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Awesome formations & pics. 
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Just let Google suck you down the rabbit hole of images.Awesome formations & pics.
There's 82 mountains alone.🤣
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He is the exact opposite of what you are thinking. A better argument would be you think I made it all up. Not sure what more I could do than have my finds verified by a respected archaeologist. I thought some here would give me a hard time and we could have fun with it but I guess not. I’m not sure why I can’t respectfully disagree with y’all.So this Dr. Grimly stated this.
"I’d keep looking where you found that"
What does that state?
Could be the resume stuffed academia brushing off the less informed, but still maintains some politeness.
Though you hold his opinion in the highest regard.
Yet you won't be swayed on reading any other opinion.
Yet you post up what appears to be a natural forming rock (the general overall opinion) and ask for the readership's opinions.
This what confuses me to no end about this (and other similar past posts)
It's like the OP knows fully well an apple is an apple.
But posts up an image of a Granny apple.
"Could this be an orange?"
Then defends it to no end.
It's like some weird game to play with folks.
OBW I'm siding with the readership on their findings also.
Natural rock.
Cool, but not worked by man.
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I think this road has been traveled many times over.
I stated what I believe what is happening here.
If you get a void fulfilled in your life with the "respectively disagree" well fill your boots.
Though I am going to say, your rock is now in the proper forum location now.
As the academic once said:
"I’d keep looking where you found that"
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You can disagree, but disagreeing does not change the fact your rock has no signs of ever being worked by ancient man
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