id help on these three if possible...silver proof marks on one.

[Des from down under]

Hi all..I would like your thoughts on age of these three items if pos..thanks in advance..I found them at an old military constabulary site here in n/z..the site was occupied from 1869 till about 1880.. occupied by mainly, british. irish etc the proof marks in the opened case if it isnt clear to view (and I have it upside down..sorry).. show.. a stamped lion..a stamped anchor a stamp of something I would struggle to explain properly but like a tower with a couple of arms out one side !!! then the numbers 1 6 5 0 6 4 with the stamp of MS a 3 under it... also guys the little medallion is an intricate piece of shows a bird like a grouse laying on a bed of leaves and appears to be washed in a gold gilt ,a pin at the back like a brooch, not a button type back...lastly what do you think the four ringer bullets belong to.they arnt enfeild as I have heaps of them and no rings ..again thanks a lot, des from n/z

 

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[Chug And Red]

omg what is this? changed pic hop it comes through!!!!

 

[Mackaydon]

I believe the lion in that posture represents English sterling .925. The Anchor represents Birmingham (since 1773). The third mark (an 'L'?) appears to be the mark representing the year 1885.
Don...

 

[trikikiwi]

Don just beat me to it

Mike

Edit; Nice finds Des
The marks on the other half of the case are probably the manufacturer's marks.
You might find them here http://www.925-1000.com/dlBirmingham.html

 

[Des from down under]

Don just beat me to it

Mike

hi mike changed your avatar..looks good .what is it ?

 

[Des from down under]

omg what is this? changed pic hop it comes through!!!!

thanks for your help..its a weirdy isint it !!!

 

[Des from down under]

I believe the lion in that posture represents English sterling .925. The Anchor represents Birmingham (since 1773). The third mark (an 'L'?) appears to be the mark representing the year 1885.
Don...

that would stack up mate..well done two to go lol

 

[Mackaydon]

The Maker's Mark does appear to be 'MS', but I can only find MS makers in London, not Birmingham.

 

[trikikiwi]

Cheers Des,
The avatar is an optical illusion. The white triangle doesn't exist, as such.
I have the name of the designer, somewhere
BTW. I just added to my first post above.
Mike

 

[Des from down under]

The Maker's Mark does appear to be 'MS', but I can only find MS makers in London, not Birmingham.

I remember you helping me once before Don..again thanks

 

[Silver Searcher]

The Maker's Mark does appear to be 'MS', but I can only find MS makers in London, not Birmingham.

There was a london based watch maker called Max Steyerman 1885-1887 Watch Case Maker he used the Silver Hallmark of the Birmingham office, I think this is your Man.
SS

 

[Mackaydon]

Silver Searcher:

Could very well be!
I note his mark (as a case maker) was registered in Sept. 1882 so the time period is OK.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...akers/London-M.html+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

(scroll down to about a dozen entries from the bottom)

Don....

 

[Chug And Red]

omg what is this? changed pic hop it comes through!!!!

thanks for your help..its a weirdy isint it !!!

I think the bird is great I was not sure what it was until i rotated the pic and cropped it!!!!!

 

[RelicHunter97]

omg what is this? changed pic hop it comes through!!!!

This appears to be a bird (maybe hummingbird?) on a plant/flowers

 

[Des from down under]

Silver Searcher:

Could very well be!
I note his mark (as a case maker) was registered in Sept. 1882 so the time period is OK.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...akers/London-M.html+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

(scroll down to about a dozen entries from the bottom)

Don....

thanks heaps to all