i need some id help brass and lead better pics added

[dragon6banger]

i found this object today at an old plantation site with lots of history when i first dug it i thought it was half a wreath buckle it is brass and lead backed... i also found a button there and my pics are not good but my camera died while taking pictures but it is a flat button with a back mark that says ( WILL CLEAVER LONDON) i looked on the net but could not find any info on the button. the field these items were found in today and eagle button was dug from also thank you for all your help... HH
can anyone help id this button also

 

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[BioProfessor]

Re: i need some id help brass and lead

In order to figure out the first item, we need something for size reference. I think I know what it is but the size will determine that.

Daryl

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: i need some id help brass and lead

Yes. If it is around 2 inches in diameter, then the first item is a bridle rosette.

 

[cwdigger]

Re: i need some id help brass and lead

Can anyone help Id his flat button it has got my curiosity up because you can search goggle and yahoo on (will cleaver London) backmark and NOTHING comes up. Maybe this is some rare button will get a better pic in a min.

 

[BioProfessor]

If it is larger than 2 inches and smaller than 5, I would say it is a blinder rosette. I have one that is about 3.5 inches made of all lead. There would have been a pair. One on the outside of each blinder.

Daryl

 

[CRUSADER]

If it is larger than 2 inches and smaller than 5, I would say it is a blinder rosette. I have one that is about 3.5 inches made of all lead. There would have been a pair. One on the outside of each blinder.

Daryl

we call them blinkers.

 

[BioProfessor]

Figures.

Daryl