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[darryl]

Can anyone help me out- I do know they came from Virginia .

 

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The rest i don't know

 

[GatorBoy]

Nice musket balls and Minie balls. A musketoon is a gun. Its a shorter version of the musket. The round lead are musket balls and the others are the first type of "bullet" invented by a Frenchman with the last name "Minie"

 

[darryl]

Nice musket balls and Minnie balls. A musketoon is a gun. Its a shorter version of the musket. The round lead are musket balls and the others are the first type of "bullet" invented by a Frenchman with the last name "Minnie"

Thanks Gator- you're one good resource- appreciate.- can you tell the caliber by these pics

 

[GatorBoy]

I'm by far an expert but your welcome. There is people on here that could probably tell you or you could use the internet and the term Minie ball to get alot of that kind of info. I find those while hunting native American artifacts. Their not really my target.

 

[darryl]

I'm by far an expert but your welcome. There is people on here that could probably tell you or you could use the internet and the term Minnie ball to get alot of that kind of info. I find those while hunting native American artifacts. Their not really my target.

Well I do appreciate- let me ask you this - which book would you suggest for American Indian artifacts-I have quite a few that I've had for bout 20 yrs now- all of mine came from a location in Mississippi - from topical to approx 22-24 inches deep- ain't nothing like spending a day in the dirt armed with a hand trowel.

 

[GatorBoy]

You got that right! I'm in Florida. So Bullen guide works for me not counting some newly named types. But really at the end of the day I use any and all of them and make my own judgement.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I think you have, form top left, A shotgun slug, two 58 caliber round balls and a 69 caliber for rifled muskets. Bottom left looks like a 54 caliber Sharps and bottom right looks like a 577 caliber Enfield. These are mostly guesses on the caliber based on the coin and the Enfield of which 99% were 577 caliber. Is the base of the Enfield hollow? A lot of them had a wood plug.

 

[darryl]

I'm by far an expert but your welcome. There is people on here that could probably tell you or you could use the internet and the term Minnie ball to get alot of that kind of info. I find those while hunting native American artifacts. Their not really my target.

Hey Gator here's a few that I found back in the largest shown is 3 1/4(in the middle) -smallest is 1 1/2----_on the top row second from left is 2 1/2-----any thoughts Gator

 

[darryl]

I think you have, form top left, A shotgun slug, two 58 caliber round balls and a 69 caliber for rifled muskets. Bottom left looks like a 54 caliber Sharps and bottom right looks like a 577 caliber Enfield. These are mostly guesses on the caliber based on the coin and the Enfield of which 99% were 577 caliber. Is the base of the Enfield hollow? A lot of them had a wood plug.

Thank you for the info-really appreciate

 

[GatorBoy]

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Hey Gator here's a few that I found back in the largest shown is 3 1/4(in the middle) -smallest is 1 1/2----_on the top row second from left is 2 1/2-----any thoughts Gator

Lots of thoughts! First one is please post those in the American Indian Artifacts forum. There's lots of us in there.

 

[darryl]

Lots of thoughts! First one is please post those in the American Indian Artifacts forum. There's lots of us in there.

I thought you'd like those- ill post um/

 

[darryl]

I think you have, form top left, A shotgun slug, two 58 caliber round balls and a 69 caliber for rifled muskets. Bottom left looks like a 54 caliber Sharps and bottom right looks like a 577 caliber Enfield. These are mostly guesses on the caliber based on the coin and the Enfield of which 99% were 577 caliber. Is the base of the Enfield hollow? A lot of them had a wood plug.

The one on bottom right is hollow- sorry it took so long to get back to you- thanks

 

[darryl]

Hi darryl, This may be off subject but if it came from Virginia--------it could very well be a fairystone. There's thousands of them in my area and soldiers could have carried them in their pocket. I have one that looks just like that one you have. There usually have fairystones in them when they are larger-----but that size usually are hollow with nothing inside. Unless of course yours is made of lead?

Hey Franklin- what is a fairystone- I'm not very knowledgable in this field- could you please explain - which one are you referring to-

 

[GTK96]

They're fun to find...

 

[wheatfinder13]

Cool

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The "fairy stone" is a naturally-occurring crystal of the mineral Staurolite.

About your bullets:
I'll list them in the order shown in your first photo.
1- Fired .69-caliber 3-groove Minie-ball (used by both sides in the civil war)
2- Unfired .58-caliber musketball (used by both sides)
3- .58-caliber ball from an exploded antipersonnel artillery shell 9called a Case-Shot ball, used by both sides)
4- Unfired .69-caliber 3-groove Minie-ball (used by both sides).
5- Unfired .52-caliber US Sharps Breechloading Rifle.Carbine bullet (used by both sides but primarily yankee usage)
6- Unfired .577-caliber Enfield Minie-ball (used by both sides but primarily Confederate usage)
7 - (shown only in the final posted photo, by itself) -- Unfired .58-caliber 3-groove mine ball (small details in this particular one's shape show it is a yankee-made one).

The correct spelling is Minie, not Minnie. The "Minie ball" bullets are named for their original designer, a Captain in the French army named Claude-Etienne Minie. Minié ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Minie's bullet design had a cylindro-conical lead body with a large cavity in its base to facilitate expansion of its rim into the gunbarrel's rifling-grooves. I should mention that the term "Minie ball" is a generic term for the "basic" bullet form (cylindro-conical with large base-cavity) designed by Capt. Minie. It is generic because there are many-many shape variations of bullets which are covered by the term "Minie ball." For example, your 3-groove bullets and no-grooves Enfield are all classified as Minie-ball bullets, despite the small differences in their form. Your Sharps bullet does not have a large cavity in its base, so it falls outside the generic classification "Minie-ball."

 

[darryl]

The "fairy stone" is a naturally-occurring crystal of the mineral Staurolite.

About your bullets:
I'll list them in the order shown in your first photo.
1- Fired .69-caliber 3-groove Minie-ball (used by both sides in the civil war)
2- Unfired .58-caliber musketball (used by both sides)
3- .58-caliber ball from an exploded antipersonnel artillery shell 9called a Case-Shot ball, used by both sides)
4- Unfired .69-caliber 3-groove Minie-ball (used by both sides).
5- Unfired .52-caliber US Sharps Breechloading Rifle.Carbine bullet (used by both sides but primarily yankee usage)
6- Unfired .577-caliber Enfield Minie-ball (used by both sides but primarily Confederate usage)
7 - (shown only in the final posted photo, by itself) -- Unfired .58-caliber 3-groove mine ball (small details in this particular one's shape show it is a yankee-made one).

The correct spelling is Minie, not Minnie. The "Minie ball" bullets are named for their original designer, a Captain in the French army named Claude-Etienne Minie. Minié ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Minie's bullet design had a cylindro-conical lead body with a large cavity in its base to facilitate expansion of its rim into the gunbarrel's rifling-grooves. I should mention that the term "Minie ball" is a generic term for the "basic" bullet form (cylindro-conical with large base-cavity) designed by Capt. Minie. It is generic because there are many-many shape variations of bullets which are covered by the term "Minie ball." For example, your 3-groove bullets and no-grooves Enfield are all classified as Minie-ball bullets, despite the small differences in their form. Your Sharps bullet does not have a large cavity in its base, so it falls outside the generic classification "Minie-ball."

Thank you very much - very informative - I really appreciate all your help

 

[GatorBoy]

Now that was professionally done! That reminds me ..... this is all for free! Treasurenet is truly a great resource!

 

[darryl]

Now that was professionally done! That reminds me ..... this is all for free! Treasurenet is truly a great resource!

Yep the best resource around Gator