I had a good morning! Help ID Please!

[BobGuy]

Found these two beauties within 10 minutes of each other. I found in one of my favorite creek spots in Southern Illinois. I still can't figure out how to ID my own points so any help is appreciated... Let me know your thoughts!

- Creek finds in Southern Illinois.

Thanks!

 

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[threecats407]

Can't help but it must feel awesome to find!

 

[BobGuy]

Yes it does

 

[Americus]

I am not good at typing points, especially from Illinois, but they are both very nice finds! Thanks for sharing.

 

[dlos]

Those are both great finds! What part of S. IL?

 

[Red Earth]

That's great. I'm jealous

 

[painterx7]

Those are freaking awesome !!!

 

[monsterrack]

1st one I'm just going to call it an archaic stemmed the 2nd one look's like a Matanzas but that is just a guess. Super finds

 

[BobGuy]

Those are both great finds! What part of S. IL?

I'm in the St. Louis Metro East area.. Thanks!

 

[BobGuy]

1st one I'm just going to call it an archaic stemmed the 2nd one look's like a Matanzas but that is just a guess. Super finds

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[rock]

2 Nice points.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Couple of really nice finds. The first one looks like a Benton and the second one could be a Matanzas like was stated above.

 

[BobGuy]

Thanks guys! Here are some better pics..

 

[Rege-PA]

IMOP The larger one could be a"Warrick" early archaic. They are known to have quality flaking and notches close to the base which should show evidence of being ground. The other one puzzles me as it is leaning to a Scotts Bluff type but the flaking is wrong, perhaps others can throw their thoughts in? In any case WONDERFUL finds.

 

[Hognutz]

Go to Barnes and Noble. In the section where the books on antiques and such you will usually find a book about arrowheads and how to ID them...

They are usually a couple inches thick and have info about all over the US..

 

[BobGuy]

Go to Barnes and Noble. In the section where the books on antiques and such you will usually find a book about arrowheads and how to ID them... They are usually a couple inches thick and have info about all over the US..

I have been using this website but there are so many variations of each type that it is hard for me to identify a specific point. I think it would help if I had a better understanding of flaking methods.. Have you seen this site before? Is it any good?

http://projectilepoints.net

 

[Rege-PA]

On that site, your smaller point matches a Searcy or Rice Lancelate pretty close, even with the serrated edges.

 

[BobGuy]

That does match up pretty well. Here is an example from Missouri that I found online. I found this about 20 miles from the Mississippi River/Illinois Missouri border and from what I am reading this point isn't as common in Illinois. I guess that doesn't mean it isn't impossible to find one in Illinois though?

 

[DigIron2]

Very nice