how the State and the City of New Syrmna beach PROTECTS its Historical sites

[FISHEYE]

Remember the exposed shipwreck at 3rd ave in New smyrna beach that i posted pics on the mel fisher forum back in oct of 2004?if any of you didnt see anything on it,its all on the link below,plus a link to the orginal pics that was was put on the florida state master site list.see the link below for the update.it is most disturbing.

http://65.33.85.140:81/3rdaveshipwreck/wreck.html

 

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[billinstuart]

I'm not surprised. Years ago when the inlet stabilization project started, we did a beach erosion study as an undergraduate thesis. Went to see the city manager or engineer...someone important...said that our profiles showed accelerated erosion on the south side of the inlet. They said that the engineers told them they would have no erosion, and who were we to question this...silly kids. And New Smyrna has strong historical interests in it. Terminal head in hiney attitude.

 

[FISHEYE]

well i contacted WESH tv channel 2 in orlando,they are very interested in the story about the wreck and what happened to it,.if any of you want to contact your local tv stations to see if they want to investigate this further and run a story on it,go for it.i want to see something done about this,not let it be swept under the door mat.if it was any of us or a treasure salvor that did this,we would be fined or be sitting in some prison somewhere an we would be on the news on how we destoyed a historical site.its interesting that the state doesnt want us to walk on the dunes or step on the sea oats,then comes a hurricane an takes away 30-60 feet of the dunes,but when a developer comes along an pays them big bucks for permits,they let them destroy the dunes an sea oats to build some condo an seawall that will get washed away in the next big storm.so i guess it all about money.i think the state should fine them heavyly on this one,eith the city of new smyrna beach or the contractors,the workers or all of them. maybe even jail.i guess it would be up for a judge to decide.if it even goes to court.time will tell.

 

[billinstuart]

The recent storm has brought alot of inconsistencies to light. In the name of "beach renourishment" local governments and individual owners have literally stolen sand from the beach to renourish private property. This is material that is part of a fragile system that continuously moves south..material removed is now unavailable to maintain beaches further south. Additionally, the feds allow and encourage "renourishment" by pumping material from offshore. This action destroys offshore habitats, and in the case of Jupiter Fl., destroyed a debris field from a recently discovered wreck. The crap they pump to the beaches isn't even sand...beach sand is smooth on the surface when magnified. Through mechanical manipulation of the beaches, Corrigans, green cabin, and colored beach have been altered to the point that they are useless for detecting (and just about everything else). How many artifacts have been irretrievably removed from their natural environment because of this interference?? It's all about the golden rule..those with the most gold rule.

 

[FISHEYE]

I have a update on the 3rd ave wreck site,tomorrow morning construction crews will be at the site to remove the remaining parts of the drive on ramp,theres a section of the lower hull thats under the ramp,this time it will be supervised by archaeologists from LAMP,the Lighthouse Archaeological Maritime Program a nonprofit, which is the research insitute at the St. Augustine LIghthouse & Museum.they will be there to record it all as i will be there too,this will happen at 8am,if anyone else wants to come an watch or record it,you are welcome to come.

The sand dredgers that use now,have blades on them that grind up anything bigger then a golf ball,coins may go thru but anything bigger then that will get ground up or badly damaged,plus the many sea creatures that get sucked up as well end up on the beach for instant death in the grinder or sun if they happen to make it that far,i think new symrna beach is planning on some sand fill for thier eroded beaches,from what i hear,they will be pumping sand from one of the isalands in the intercoastal water way,this should be interesting,most of the islands there are dredge spoils,if they do pick a island thats not a spoil,it may be worth detecting,more history there from as far back as the seminole indian wars,plus the civil war,maybe even some AIS indian artifacts or maybe thier gold that they got from the shipwrecks all along the coasts.but even if they pump any sand on the beach,it will all go away with the next high tides or next storm.you cant fight mother nature.

 

[billinstuart]

Well..good news about the professional observation of the remaining wreck. You're correct about the spoil islands. I lived in Daytona when the inlet was natural..it was alot like Matanzas. Lotsa sand inside the inlet that constantly changed. The stabilization was supposedta include pumping south sand retained on the north side. Net transport in yer area is about 250,000 cubic yards per year...that is..about that quantity accrues on the north side, and erodes on the south side yearly. Some is lost forever at the mouth of the inlet, washing out into deep water. Your sand is very fine white sand, thus the flat hard beaches. This sand is easily moved by both slight water movement and wind. Spoil is alot like the crap they dredge up on south Florida beaches. Good luck.

 

[billinstuart]

So what happened during the recent work? Any parts of the shipwreck still there? Also, interesting articles recently about the stabilization of beaches at Sailfish point and Jupiter Island. The renourishment is destroying existing reefs. Both communities are wealthy, largely non-resident, and arrogant. Do I detect a trend here??

 

[FISHEYE]

I just got back from the beach,the city of new smyrna beach tractor an bulldozer crews are tearing down the beach ramp,while under supervision of a archie from the st augustine lighthouse on behalf of the state of florida,she will be there all day getting pics,and making sure the crews dont disturb the only remaining shipwreck pieces that are left,which is directly in front of the ramp,its a section of the lower hull or part of the keel,theres some pics of it on my web site,the sand had covered it up an now its exposed again since more sand eroded off the beach,an i did find out from a city manager that was there that they will rebuild the ramp sometime in the future,i got pics and video this morning,the weather was crappy,lots of rain an wind plus the tide came up on usmill post some pics later today after i dry out.