How old is this Quartermaster Ring???

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just a couple of notes but the top is absent, did you do that by accident or find it that way?
you can see the mold marks and this was obviously armature made, can you ID the stones used?
5 shells maybe mother of pearl were laid out in a very distinct radius a clue?
 

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just a couple of notes but the top is absent, did you do that by accident or find it that way?
you can see the mold marks and this was obviously armature made, can you ID the stones used?
5 shells maybe mother of pearl were laid out in a very distinct radius a clue?
I'll get other pictures.... I've no clue how your seeing any MOP or stones on this ring???

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Doing a little research on the Qtm. insignia I'm somewhat confused. The 1896 original eagle design has his head below the wing. In 1921 the eagles head moves upright. Then again in 1986 it looks like the eagles head is again moved back below the wing. Mine is below the wing.
Read here.... Quartermaster Corps Branch Insignia where'd all the military historian guys go on this forum. you 'all seemed to diapered??? My question is as they say. As S*** rolls down the hill it'll be gone from view.
 

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Looks like the boy scouts of America eagle. Troop quartermaster takes care of all of troops camping equipment.
 

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I just don't know! But for what help it's worth, I think Sheldon meant to respond to a different thread (the one about the 6 ft cross under blacktop). And add that the Scout's quartermaster badge never had a sword on it... But actually did have most of the other elements at some point (if you include the sea scouts). Anyway, I'm sure your attribution is correct, it's just that I can't find an example with those markings, and if one were found we'd likely just be taking some unknown seller's word regarding its age. It would certainly be easier if these were made per military specifications, but they're not an issued item, just made for folks in the military.
 

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I just don't know! But for what help it's worth, I think Sheldon meant to respond to a different thread (the one about the 6 ft cross under blacktop). And add that the Scout's quartermaster badge never had a sword on it... But actually did have most of the other elements at some point (if you include the sea scouts). Anyway, I'm sure your attribution is correct, it's just that I can't find an example with those markings, and if one were found we'd likely just be taking some unknown seller's word regarding its age. It would certainly be easier if these were made per military specifications, but they're not an issued item, just made for folks in the military.
Thanks! nhbenz, I know this would not be any kind of military spec item, but something a proud service man would purchase to identify himself with the branch he served with. To me the side eagles with the shield chest just seems to me a typical pre-ww2 motif. I know a casting mold could sure be used a long time to produce the same ring again & again for a long time after it was first created. It to me looks also that the top was designed to be universal as you could order it with what ever insignia you requested to have put on it. If it had a date inscribed or a jeweler I.D. mark it be much easier to put a date on it. I do think though the eagles head position is a good clue in dating this piece, but I can see the mold or die? for that quartermaster insignia being used also again to produce that same design... Difficult to say if it's post or pre WW2.
 

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the shape / type of shield and its design well help with the time frame it was made in most likely.--note the flat "top --line" on the shield --not a pointed crest at the mid point type --this was common of WW2 era items
 

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I'm far from an expert, but the fact that the "sterling" and "14K top" is so prominent, it looks like it was part of the mold. It's certainly speaks to a time when "done right" mattered more than just a cheap, simple 925 hammer stamped into it. The overall quality and style says WW2 or earlier to me.
 

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I'm far from an expert, but the fact that the "sterling" and "14K top" is so prominent, it looks like it was part of the mold. It's certainly speaks to a time when "done right" mattered more than just a cheap, simple 925 hammer stamped into it. The overall quality and style says WW2 or earlier to me.

i AGREE - THIS FROM A GUY THAT HAS FOUND OVER 1000 RINGS
 

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I'm far from an expert, but the fact that the "sterling" and "14K top" is so prominent, it looks like it was part of the mold. It's certainly speaks to a time when "done right" mattered more than just a cheap, simple 925 hammer stamped into it. The overall quality and style says WW2 or earlier to me.
That's my thinking? The attention to the details just looks like the way things were done in the past. Thanks for your impute. Also I enjoyed your video on dredging in the Arkansas. I lived within walking distance to that river just to the north of Buena Vista in the early 80's. I spent as much time as I could panning and exploring the shores of that river. I found arrow heads, gold and if you can believe this? I panned a clear brownish diamond the size of a BB out of that river or that's what the jeweler at the time in Salida said I have. The alluvium in the upper Arkansas is made up of every kind of stone you can think of. One day I need to get familiar with metal detecting. I'm good with the eye, but somewhat intimidated by that MD that sits in the garage. I've traveled by land all over the western states selling to the mines for the last 20 plus years and I should be using that dang thing. I don't like the attention they bring either when some folks see you looking around with that gizmo. I think it be better with a partner do that kind of poking around. I know of tons of places to hunt that way. I do okay hunting for treasure in the retail antique shops, thrift store, coin shops, pawn stores and flea markets I pass by in my work travels. I just never know what will be put out for sale and me to be the first to discover it as valuable? I'm a high frequency treasure hunting in those kind of places.
 

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