Help with ID

[Joetrikke]

I found two of these brass buckles in waist deep water. They were almost completely crusted over. I did not think that they may be anything of value then after a little research I discovered that there was a yet unnamed british frigate that some other artifacts have been recovered from in the general area I was hunting. Any help would be apprieciated.
Thanks.

 

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[doublet2a]

Looks like a shoe buckle ??

Tim

 

[hbeaton]

Joetrikke,

Not an expert on buckles but I might be able to at least point you in the right direction(s)? Typically buckles were constructed in the following manner during the following time period: gold and silver (plated from c1690), Sheffield plate (from 1742), pinchbeck (from 1733), pewter, tutania (from 1772), copper, brass, tin, iron, cut-steel (from the late-1760′s), pottery, wood, and papier mache.

Furthermore, the fact that your buckles are just the frame and missing the other components: pin, chape, tongue, spikes etc., had those been present it would help a lot with dating them. But fear not, your buckle more than likely dates from the late 1760s onward until tie laces started taking over.

As far as possibly coming off a yet unnamed british frigate wreck in the area, it is possible. Check these pages I came across that give more in depth, book referenced accounts of buckle technology advances over time with many examples, a few which match up with yours fairly close.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Bucklepage 10 ? Part Ten Georgian 1720?s-1790?s

 

[Joetrikke]

hbeaton,

thanks so much, that is a big help.

HH.

Joe P.