Help with British Hallmarks on silver spoon

[Newfiehunter]

I recovered this tarnish silver spoon and was wondering if anyone out there, especially in the UK, if they can identify the British Hallmarks..I assume it is silver by the Lion Hallmark...but the T represents the maker and is it Georgian? Also can anyone make out the monogram on the other side of the spoon! Any help would be appreciated...Thanks..

 

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[K1DDO1979]

I have no time to search but check this site for info...
http://www.925-1000.com/british_marks.html

 

[K1DDO1979]

Im thinking British king George iii sterling silver spoon. 1786-1821 and the T would be the date mark of the maker. No other stamps on it? Should have a makers mark to nail it down.

 

[Newfiehunter]

The T is the makers mark...I believe...Actually I found an old silver shoebuckle with the same T and from the same period...Could be either Thomas Northcote or Thomas Nortzell...but that is only speculation..

 

[K1DDO1979]

The T is the makers mark...I believe...Actually I found an old silver shoebuckle with the same T and from the same period...Could be either Thomas Northcote or Thomas Nortzell...but that is only speculation..

I was thinking that at first but i couldn't find single letter British makers marks. Im no expert anyway but its a awesome find. Also you got the stamp telling you which king was reigning which narrows it down anyway. Hope you nail the maker info down though! [emoji106]

 

[deepsecrets]

Not silver - silver plate - late 1700s-early 1800s - pseudo hallmarks that mimic London manufacture (Lion) - the "T" would be date mark not maker. The bust would be a duty mark. No maker mark if those are the only hallmarks on the piece.

 

[Newfiehunter]

Not silver - silver plate - late 1700s-early 1800s - pseudo hallmarks that mimic London manufacture (Lion) - the "T" would be date mark not maker. The bust would be a duty mark. No maker mark if those are the only hallmarks on the piece.

That's a bummer...Thought it was silver..OH well...

 

[Newfiehunter]

Not silver - silver plate - late 1700s-early 1800s - pseudo hallmarks that mimic London manufacture (Lion) - the "T" would be date mark not maker. The bust would be a duty mark. No maker mark if those are the only hallmarks on the piece.

I thought you were right by stating that it was NOT silver because of the heavy tarnish of the spoon being in the ground that was in heavy iron...However, I cleaned it using the tin foil, hot water and baking soda...and it turns out to BE SILVER!!!! Here are some pics of the spoon cleaned!

 

[bill from lachine]

NH,

That's a beauty of a spoon and good clean up job....must have came from a wealthy family back in the day....the monogram would probably be the family initials.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[K1DDO1979]

I thought you were right by stating that it was NOT silver because of the heavy tarnish of the spoon being in the ground that was in heavy iron...However, I cleaned it using the tin foil, hot water and baking soda...and it turns out to BE SILVER!!!! Here are some pics of the spoon cleaned!

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It looked tarnished all silver the whole time i thought.

 

[Newfiehunter]

Thanks Kiddo...It was another member that stated it was not silver...I really thought your Silver Coin Spills was awesome! Both the Newfoundland Fishescale spill and the 76 silver spill that you found! That was amazing!

 

[K1DDO1979]

Thanks Kiddo...It was another member that stated it was not silver...I really thought your Silver Coin Spills was awesome! Both the Newfoundland Fishescale spill and the 76 silver spill that you found! That was amazing!

Thanks. I was over to Newfoundland for the first time this summer. Didn't really get to hunt it at all bit it was a great place. Next time i hope to make it over the opposite side of it to explore because i was mostly in the corner brook area. I look forward to seeing what other great stuff you find over there! [emoji106]

 

[Tnmountains]

The lion passant represents English sterling silver. The letter "T" is 1868. The head is probably Queen Victoria and means the duty or tax was paid. It is missing the makers mark as stated.
Awesome cleaning job!

Here was one page that gave me some of the info.

Silver, Old Sheffield Plate & Silverplate - The Farm Antiques, Wells Maine

 

[K1DDO1979]

The lion passant represents English sterling silver. The letter "T" is 1868. The head is probably Queen Victoria and means the duty or tax was paid. It is missing the makers mark as stated.
Awesome cleaning job!

Here was one page that gave me some of the info.

Silver, Old Sheffield Plate & Silverplate - The Farm Antiques, Wells Maine

I thought the head looks like the George iii myself but i could be wrong!

 

[Tnmountains]

I thought the head looks like the George iii myself but i could be wrong!

I might be wrong but the date may hold the answer? The things cleaned up well.

 

[pepperj]

The lion is the symbol for sterling, the head does look like George III, but can't find the T symbol in either the London or Chester.
Very nice find NewfieHunter.

 

[Tnmountains]

It is one of the George's. Here are the T symbols and dates

English silver marks: the guide to hallmarks of London sterling silver

 

[pepperj]

It is one of the George's. Here are the T symbols and dates

English silver marks: the guide to hallmarks of London sterling silver

But the T doesn't match up, looking at the actual Font and the shield style I can't find the match.

 

[Newfiehunter]

Actually, it is King George 111 and the hallmark on the spoon is of him and not Queen Victoria......I have a book of Hallmarks...There are many T symbols and according to the book it is 1816...The book is called...Need to Know? Hallmarks........It is very extensive and identifies every Hallmark that was produced in the UK..