help with a couple of things please

[postalgriff]

I found the first item at a bottle dump in the woods of an old farm site. It appears to maybe be some sort of a light bulb? It looks like it has wood in it and in the middle some sort of metal piece running down the center. I've never seen anything like it and there was seven of them in this dump. the other small item I dug in a park in the city. researching the company it seems they made everything from lamps, perfume bottles, to guns. Just wondered if anyone knew what it might have come off of. I thought I had all the pieces but they don't match up. thanks in advance you guys, Griff

 

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[Mackaydon]

Glass tube object reminds me of a battery.

Also:
"Breveté" indicates that the design of the item to which this tag is attached incorporates one or more patents claimed by Gautrot. "S.G.D.G." (Sans garantie du Gouvernement) is a disclaimer required by the government of France stating that it does not guarantee enforcement of the claimed patent. http://www.rjmartz.com/horns/gautrot/gautrot.htm
Edit: From the same source: "The firm Gautrot aîné was founded in 1845 by Pierre Louis Gautrot. By 1855 it had grown to a workforce of over 300 in Paris producing 20,000 brass, woodwind and string instruments, mostly for export. In 1867 it was reported that about 24,000 brass instruments were produced. From the start the firm specialized in 'pacotille' (cheaper quality) brass instruments lower in price than the competition, although it also produced higher quality instruments as well."
Don.....

 

[GopherDaGold]

I believe the item stamped 'Brevete SGDG' is from a musical instrument
Or a medical quackery device.

 

[IronSpike]

The Brevete piece may be bicycle related. Here's a toe clip:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coalandice/1251773486/

 

[diggummup]

The glass thing is an old vacuum tube.

 

[postalgriff]

The glass thing is an old vacuum tube.

for an old radio or tv? the ones I saw online look smaller and a lot different

 

[Mackaydon]

Postal:
What can you read above the "(New) York Paris" line?
I believe that is the product company name--whatever product this tag was attached to.

 

[diggummup]

The glass thing is an old vacuum tube.

for an old radio or tv? the ones I saw online look smaller and a lot different

They came in many sizes for different reasons.

"Breveté" indicates that the design of the item to which this tag is attached incorporates one or more patents claimed by Gautrot. "S.G.D.G." (Sans garantie du Gouvernement) is a disclaimer required by the government of France stating that it does not guarantee enforcement of the claimed patent. http://www.rjmartz.com/horns/gautrot/gautrot.htm

Correct it does not refer to a specific "brand". You can see the brand name at the bottom of the last photo that postalgriff posted as mackydon has just stated..

 

[postalgriff]

Postal:
What can you read above the "(New) York Paris" line?
I believe that is the product company name--whatever product this tag was attached to.

well it's missing some letters in the beginning but it looks like __enzel-mueller (Penzel-Mueller...there we go)

 

[diggummup]

Perhaps Penzel Meuller?
Part of a clarinet?

 

[postalgriff]

Perhaps Penzel Meuller?
Part of a clarinet?

yup I think so...was just looking at them...good call

 

[Chug And Red]

Careful with the Glass object Its a battery just cant fine a picture of on that looks like it, copper inside of the glass with iron rod in the center?? Battery

 

[Mackaydon]

Chug: Thanks for the validation; at least a second similar opinion.

 

[postalgriff]

Careful with the Glass object Its a battery just cant fine a picture of on that looks like it, copper inside of the glass with iron rod in the center?? Battery

that has got to be what this is, I thought at first it was wood inside of there, must be copper. and it looks like lead going down the middle. Thanks Chug and Mackaydon....good call. do you think they are dangerous to have around? I mean they have been sitting in a dump hole for at least 100 years, and don't appear to have any acid in them. thanks you guys for all your expertise...

 

[Mackaydon]

The Penzel-Müller company was established in New York in 1899 as a partnership between the German immigrants Gustav Ludwig "Louis" Penzel (1855 - 1920) and Edward Georg Müller (1869 - 1956) and existed till 1950.
Diggummup: Good ID on the Penzel Muller.
Don.......

 

[taz42o]

Might be this battery, the top should screw off. They are not dangerous.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=f-...2#v=onepage&q=round glass battery jar&f=false

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The glass bottle may be a Leiden (Leyden) Jar. An early form of capacitor. It was used to power telegraphs and later crank phones/military phones/field radios. The crank is a magneto and the jars store the power long enough for a conversation.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

battery